solidworks for hire, "and i pay..." [cit.]

[marcof]

I received this "off" from my former swx dealer who, as far as I am concerned, becomes more and more ex.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're not here to sell but to give! the more people enter and the more beasts they see!"buy solidworks from 199 euro per month without additional costs for
financial burdens
take advantage of this offer valid until funds are exhausted. You can access
to the potentialities of solidworks starting from 199 euro per month!"
"..... the maintenance and service fee 'subscription service' must be purchased for 12 months at full price. "
"Offer subject to other limitations"the tram of rental licenses has departed and those who salt can no longer descend. have finally found the system to crack well, and on a continuous cycle, their customers who become in fact milk cows in battery. I like to remember during the mugitura every now and then some mansueta cow, with a well-established kick, spreads the brain to the evil milker who pulls too much.

swx users prepared vasellina, than that in the maintenance contract is not included

 

[calacc]

It is happening for all cad... I receive it and I gate every day of these offerings! it will be a matter of time and it will touch everyone sooner or later. question of obsolescence. because the problem then becomes the hardware that needs superior performance (so he will be nominated too!) evviva! the consumer business is served!

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I think it's rather a way to bypass the fact that there are those who buy the version then for various reasons not the update or do it sporadically.
with the rental, from what I understand, the monthly pays him natural death during (of the renter and not of the software that will never die...) and therefore if for various reasons, not always strictly personal but dependent on external factors, do not update the software a standard solidworks 20xx with manual of the blasphemer 4.0 not included you pay as the version delux of catia that makes you a shuttle scanning a sketch done with the pencil

 

[cacciatorino]

began autodesk, at least in the mid-range sector. The fact that others are coming together makes me think that autodesk is not so bad. I would sincerely expect a complete block of maintenance renewals, by customers, to the currently available versions. If that doesn't happen, they're right, boh?

I have to see if to take two cocreate licenses (now ptc creo blah-blah-blah), which is a cad that has a very slow development cycle that absolutely does not justify the stay in maintenance, and in fact many customers are out of service with releases now dated a few years but very similar to those currently in distribution. with rental licenses found a way to make you pay updates that then do with droppers on completely marginal aspects of the software.

In the specific case of the discussion I think it is an option for the customer and not an obligation. Also solid edge can be taken both in purchase and rent, at the discretion of the customer.

 

[Meteor02]

theoretically it is a cool pay a monthly fee that you download monthly so nn put in amortization you always have the updated software and assistance guaranteed.... maybe they have to hit a moment the prices but to 100/120 euros per month I would seriously think about it.

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

Good evening, everyone. I also received the mail that marcof speaks about. Maybe I am a candidate soul, but I think they are not inventing anything new, they simply offer a financial service like any other seller. It is however unpleasant to find out to purchase that in the list is not included the first year of service fee, which then is not optional but mandatory. This regardless of the offer you are talking about. then I believe that the history of software a nolo was born for all the needs to term, daughters of the unfortunate market of typical work these days. I also find that if you are good enough to deal with you can still buy a powershape instead of renting it.

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

meteor02, 120 euros per month are 1440 euros per year. at the current list there is no annual canon of solidworks base.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

and if then those 100/120 or 200 monthly turn, magically and unilaterally, into 300/350/unreneedunacornea as it happens for the various satellite/telephonic/bancari/anypromotional contractsuperoffertissimaonlyfortenondirloanyone?
and if you work for a customer, who pays cash and guarantees on all fronts, which is and wants to remain firm to the antenoleggio version?
assistance already works so now that they have interest in keeping the customer good; What happens when the customer has to keep the softwarehouse good because if he skips a payment they close the license and loses the whole job archive? that he cares about the assistance of really solving the problems of the charterer if so before changing soup he thinks so many times to dream of the troubles to which he goes to meet and resurrecting froid
for me to make such a choice, except for the possibility of redeeming the license and returning to be the owner. and how to put a loop in the neck

 

[marcof]

theoretically it is a cool pay a monthly fee that you download monthly so nn put in amortization you always have the updated software and assistance guaranteed.... maybe they have to hit a moment the prices but to 100/120 euros per month I would seriously think about it.

Yes, theoretically. In practice, we all know that you're stuck without even taking off your pants. when there will no longer be personal licenses but only subscriptions you will be tied hands and feet to their financial plans, and when they decide that you will have to pay 500 euros/year, and then 1000 etc. you will pay them because otherwise your files will be completely useless and the only working option that will remain you will be the tecnigraph
if for then my 2013 version will no longer be able to turn on the available know for the pcs on sale then I will pass with great satisfaction to the dark side of the software, and in the ass to all the software house of the world, from a.d. to the last of the neo-assunti employees. These bandits for me can start ruining right now.

 

[Gabriele SWX]

the thing is very simple,
as solidworks does not propose epochal changes from one release to another users often decide not to pay the subscription to the assistance and prefer to remain firm to old versions.
good or bad what you do with 2017 you can do also with 2012.
if from one release to another there were substantial improvements (speed, reliability, etc.) definitely users would be eager to invest in renewal contracts, as a financial investment would correspond to an improvement of software performance with perhaps some benefits in time and therefore costs.
Unfortunately at the moment I do not see the possibility of radically improving a cad, in my opinion are few or null the revolutionary functions that could be added, at the limit is made some retouching in here and in there often concerning the graphic interface.
software houses have seen a decline in licensing renewals.
therefore with a rental contract are sure that customers will have to pay little but always worth the impossibility to use the software.
This option could serve perhaps for technical studies that need to use different cads and not continuously, would activate the license and hire only in need without having to buy the expensive cads imposed by the various customers and have to update them to keep up with them, although it seems to me a complicated thing to manage.

 

[New Rider]

Has anyone found that, as soon as the annual maintenance period is over, the software starts to trouble?
last year my former company had purchased sw2016 updating it to s.p.5. in January 2017 the contract has expired and no longer renewed by us. from there on frequent crashes, components that disappear, unscrupulous objects and what else... .
other smart thing I noticed is that when you buy the software they give you the cd with s.p 0. if you need to reinstall, but you are without contract, you cannot update through download to the latest s.p

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

other smart thing I noticed is that when you buy the software they give you the cd with s.p 0. if you need to reinstall, but you are without contract, you cannot update through download to the latest s.p

for this issue, when you download the service pack, download the package locally so you always have it available

 

[Gabriele SWX]

it seems to me that even if the maintenance contract has expired you have the right to the services packs published in the period when the contract was valid, however the council of mass is the best thing, however avoid having to remake the download of serice paks.

 

[pritio72]

boh what to say... to us maintenance licenses expire at the end of the year... we see what they propose.
we say that on the rental I do not agree very well; with the rental you are forced to always have everything updated.
to us came this email and every day there is one calling to propose me additions or variations on the license.

"take advantage of this offer valid until funds are exhausted. you can access the potential of solidworks from 199 euro per month!
conditions and terms: the offer is valid until exhaustion funds only in Italy. only the new licenses acquired with orders from 12:00 am gmt+2 of 11 October 2017 are included in the offer. educational licenses and research do not fall into this offer. the maintenance fee and assistance 'subscription service' must be purchased for 12 months at full price. offer subject to other limitations. contact your local solidworks dealer for more information. "

 

[New Rider]

I received this "off" from my former swx dealer who, as far as I am concerned, becomes more and more ex.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're not here to sell but to give! the more people enter and the more beasts they see!"buy solidworks from 199 euro per month without additional costs for
financial burdens
take advantage of this offer valid until funds are exhausted. You can access
to the potentialities of solidworks starting from 199 euro per month!"
"..... the maintenance and service fee 'subscription service' must be purchased for 12 months at full price. "
"Offer subject to other limitations"the tram of rental licenses has departed and those who salt can no longer descend. have finally found the system to crack well, and on a continuous cycle, their customers who become in fact milk cows in battery. I like to remember during the mugitura every now and then some mansueta cow, with a well-established kick, spreads the brain to the evil milker who pulls too much.

swx users prepared vasellina, than that in the maintenance contract is not included

I talked to the dealer this morning.
That's not exactly what I said here.
he told me that this promo has only financial character.
practically does not work as autodesk you have a monthly subscription but you do not have a license of your property.
solidworks gives you your license but allows you to pay monthly ''financing''

 

[re_solidworks]

Stop everyone, this is inventor!

This is what autodesk says by proposing his licenses! rental would also be a good thing if it had adequate prices and if it were really flexible. In fact this is a way to mask waste that in 10 years of use arrive at double prices, but without initial investment. the only sensible rental, for me, is that of adobe, where with 12.19 euros per month you have photoshop and lightroom installed on 2 pcs. if compared to the prices of the licenses there is not to think about it a moment, it is in rental. in the cads, the rental costs twice as much maintenance or more, so it is a nice trick. autodesk told me that, if I don't pass the rental licenses, my fee will increase (I don't remember how much, I think 20% a year in the next 2 years). I have 2 ultimate product design suites that cost 20,000 euros (together) and if I step to their new system I have nothing more... Does that make sense? I stop with autodesk and use 2018 for another 10 years, then you will see. In the meantime, I've spent 10 years at no expense, then maybe I'll start paying like the others. and solidworks? after installing and removing 2017 for 2 times I have to say that you only have to be ashamed for the product they give with sp 4.1 with the stability of a beta. I really broke the boxes of these things and I'm seriously evaluating to stop everything for a few years and then assess what to do. I don't want to, not after I spit out blood to pay expensive licenses. the flexibility of a rental is to be able to take and pay the product one month at a time, not have the obligation of a year.

 

[reggio]

:d ^__^ ah ah ah!

massi... mi fai morire... :d

to break well, and to continuous cycle, their customers who become in fact milk cows ...
well-established calcium, spreads the brain to the evil milker who pulls too much.

the monthly pays him death life natural during and therefore if you do not update the software a standard solidworks 20xxx with beast 4.0 manual not included you pay as the version delux of catia that makes you a shuttle scanning a sketch made with the pencil popped on the dirty napkin of sugo

assistance already works so now that they have interest in keeping the customer good

They're not even getting your pants off. when there will no longer be personal licenses but only subscriptions you will be tied hands and feet to their financial plans, and when they decide that you will have to pay 500 euros/year, and then 1000 etc etc. you will pay them ...
... I will pass with great satisfaction to the dark side of the software

Solidworks does not propose epochal changes from one release to another users often decide not to pay the subscription to the assistance and prefer to stay still to old versions.
good or bad what you do with 2017 you can do also with 2012.

All true, I subscribe...

I personally stop at 2016 almost stable and, since the return I will have to pay it as new, it will mean that this I must shock at least until 2022 (at various commercial rags that they call it every day I have already said)

I would sincerely expect a complete block of maintenance renewals, by customers, to the currently available versions. If that doesn't happen, they're right, boh?

Well, it seems to me that in many people they think like us and stay...

guaranteed assistance... .

From there, we try to be serious, already on assistance there would be to say, on guaranteed then ...
... thinking better, maybe there was a translation error originally was probably "good working insurance is guaranteed that there is not - real assistance, what solves when you plant everything and between 30min you have to deliver, that is guaranteed will serve you, and, we assure you that we are able to supply it ("Mandi the pack&go of the 250mb supersecret project we look at")

Perhaps they have to hit the prices a moment but at 100/120 euros per month I would think seriously.

Yes, yes, already, remove the zero at the end that nothing is worth zero, add a fixed price for 20 years and then a thought we do it...

solidworks gives you your license but allows you to pay monthly

and the total? Just €199x12?

... I know that here is worth the law of the strongest, divid et impera, at this point perhaps a nice group of purchases in common?
we put together and select the interested candidate retailer to take home x renew in y years with conditions from big company ...

 

[New Rider]

:

Massive... You make me die...











All true, I subscribe...

I personally stop at 2016 almost stable and, since the return I will have to pay it as new, it will mean that this I must shock at least until 2022 (at various commercial rags that they call it every day I have already said)


Well, it seems to me that in many people they think like us and stay...

From there, we try to be serious, already on assistance there would be to say, on guaranteed then ...
... thinking better, maybe there was a translation error originally was probably "good working insurance is guaranteed that there is not - real assistance, what solves when you plant everything and between 30min you have to deliver, that is guaranteed will serve you, and, we assure you that we are able to supply it ("Mandi the pack&go of the 250mb supersecret project we look at")


Yes, yes, already, remove the zero at the end that nothing is worth zero, add a fixed price for 20 years and then a thought we do it...


and the total? Just €199x12?

... I know that here is worth the law of the strongest, divid et impera, at this point perhaps a nice group of purchases in common?
we put together and select the interested candidate retailer to take home x renew in y years with conditions from big company ...

199+annual or three-year maintenance/36

 

[marcof]

and solidworks? after installing and removing 2017 for 2 times I have to say that you only have to be ashamed for the product they give with sp 4.1 with the stability of a beta. I really broke the boxes of these things and I'm seriously evaluating to stop everything for a few years and then assess what to do. I don't want to, not after I spit out blood to pay expensive licenses. the flexibility of a rental is to be able to take and pay the product one month at a time, not have the obligation of a year.

I allow myself to make a copy-paste of a post that I wrote a few weeks ago:
"To the baba and the forty thieves make him a mustache.
I fear that, all of them, they are inventing extremely effective methods to break their customers and the main road is to rent. in expressing my deepest contempt for the entire category of software houses, I hope they all fail!
just last week he phoned me, as they regularly do twice a year, my (ex) solidworks dealer to propose me a affarone: they are doing an unmissable promo (rotfl!), which expires at the end of the year, so I could return in maintenance from 2013 to 2017 without having to pay the penalty and all the past updates, therefore relative to releases that I never had (500 + 1,500x4= 6,500 €, but go a little bit 'tip!) paying "only" a penalty of 500€ and doing a maintenance contract of three years to pay in advance, so ' 500€ But fuck you again!
I care for 2013 and for me they can also starve and their children for the next four generations to come. when they will also prevent my license transfer via server from a pc to the new one I will decide whether to sue him and hope I will be in good company. "It would suffice that a sufficient number of users responded to piques that would descend everyone from the pear and make you pay for the maintenance to buy sps that really fix and make efficient the craps of software that release. all, from the most blasoned to the last cad scassone.

 

[Trapy]

I'm not in possession of licenses, I'm looking around but the situation seems pretty desolate with this forced passage on the subscription model. just a few years ago a goengineer video in which they declare that for solidworks they are not willing to force the passage to the subscription like other houses, but words fly and things change from day to day.

one thing that leaves me interrupted in any case is the three-year inscription plan of inventor and I create.
From a quarterly to the annual average monthly expenditure decreases considerably, as usual.
However, from annual commitment to three-year commitment, average expenditure remains identical. as an admission of the fact that the price (already round) will go further in the medium/short term and you are given the possibility to block it for at least 3 years. and is quite discouraging, not only for those who do 1 year, but also for those who do 3 and have no idea what it finds at the end of the day.