solidworks for hire, "and i pay..." [cit.]

[marcof]

To believe that you can no longer work because in possession of a cad of last year or three years before it is simply ridiculous. they went on the moon drawing the saturno v with the tecnigraph. qlacuno really believes that I cannot continue to design and, I add, make innovation, using for example the current version of your cad for the next 10 or 15 years (we let the update of the so for the moment)
it would take a nice strike of renewal on a planetary level, organized as you must, to see him drop the arms on the public square and get down to several mitigations.

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

This is the world in general. It works like that for everything. If you need a car to go to the country, the old 126 is fine. If you have to go to the city center you have a means to avoid the blocks. If you have to cooperate with better equipped customers than you must have compatible means. that then the commercials always try to put fear is not because they are right to them, but because they are born of this.

 

[reggio]

... but I say, according to you, the impossibility of switching to other systems and reuse to full 3d files
just as you can do and you are always done with dwg and dxf formats
is it a technical limitation or is the sign-shaped colombo egg that have been invented to block any migration and to limit the subminimum competition between software houses?

that time a boy from the east threw you out a strong and functional conversion softwery, moving from this to that cad 3d would no longer be so afraid, would it?

one of the reasons why we have "paura" to pass to other, is, I believe, the fear (founded or not would be all to discuss) to lose the library and the experience accumulated, for this they prevent compatibility also between version and version of the same cad, and, I believe, they break in 1000 different software and make pay aside (pdm, composer, inspection, ...) what should instead to my opinion be unique ...

... I don't think it takes a planetary strike, it would probably be enough for a regional agreement, at the bottom even retailers must bill (there is no one here who can report a negotiation where there were dozens of licenses at once, to make us an idea of how and if conditions can change? )
It is difficult to agree with us, because there will be those who change this year, who between 2, 3, 4 years ...
difficult but not impossible, it is enough to organize a "equosolidal" purchase waiting for the kid from the east:biggrin:

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

Unfortunately, a parametric solid modeler is quite complex. While in an old dwg or rhino file a geometry is described universally recognized, and this is transmitted by and by dxf or iges (more or less), in solidworks or ptc or nx is also stored the construction process and correlations with other entities of the model. This, if on the one hand facilitates the realization and maintenance of the project, on the other makes every architecture a world to itself. Otherwise the cads would all be equal.

 

[Meteor02]

now also 20000 euros for an entrepreneur is a ridiculous investment. especially because high investments should not be made. invests more of an electrician to set up the working medium. Moreover if you change cad the workstation remains that unless it is obsolete, I still have a version of sw2010 on an old pc and I challenge anyone to work today without blaspheming in ancient Aramaic.
rather it would be time to have stable software that I do not crascino every 2 hours and maybe some texts in Italian well done, video lessons updated to every available relay, I complain more than quality than price.. .

 

[marcof]

I still have a version of sw2010 on an old pc and I challenge anyone to work today without blaspheming in ancient Aramaic.

I'm sure if you install 2010 on the pc where you have 2017 2010 at the same sequence and type of feature, it goes four times faster.
on the old machine instead goes equal to 2017 on the supercomputer you will have now.
Come on, we're serious. it is enough to pass the paturnia to update really thinking that it halves the design time as they support the commercials that make the sellers (pentole or cad for them is equal)

rather it would be time to have stable software that I do not crascino every 2 hours and maybe some texts in Italian well done, video lessons updated to every available relay, I complain more than quality than price.. .

If it's for that time it's been for decades, because the money that you're getting is good money, and with the good things we give them sell you (not even, they give you in handy use...) crap software. If they sold cars with those criteria they would find themselves at the cage hanging out of the city walls, as was used in the good times gone.
When I hear they protect their intellectual property, I can't help but think of the intellect of a monkey (and I'm good at exercising left in the mammals area:smile

 

[TAURUS77]

I'm sure if you install 2010 on the pc where you have 2017 2010 at the same sequence and type of feature, it goes four times faster.
on the old machine instead goes equal to 2017 on the supercomputer you will have now.
Come on, we're serious. it is enough to pass the paturnia to update really thinking that it halves the design time as they support the commercials that make the sellers (pentole or cad for them is equal)




If it's for that time it's been for decades, because the money that you're getting is good money, and with the good things we give them sell you (not even, they give you in handy use...) crap software. If they sold cars with those criteria they would find themselves at the cage hanging out of the city walls, as was used in the good times gone.
When I hear they protect their intellectual property, I can't help but think of the intellect of a monkey (and I'm good at exercising left in the mammals area:smile

hi marcof I propose you as president of the caddist union....only for the statement "pentole or cad for them is equal" are a thousand votes...while for "if they sold cars with those criteria they would find themselves to the cage hanging out of the city walls, as they used to the good times gone." I would give you the nobel.
ste c...zo of software house are forcing too much hand....but really there is no way to stem this crap? ?

 

[reggio]

hi marcof I propose you as president of the caddisti union

marcof for president! yes we can!

But is there really no way of curbing this shit? ?

the creator of this post, marcof is the only one who can add a survey to tastare the terrain type:
"would you be willing to participate in a purchase group? "

 

[cacciatorino]

hi marcof I propose you as president of the caddist union....only for the statement "pentole or cad for them is equal" are a thousand votes...while for "if they sold cars with those criteria they would find themselves to the cage hanging out of the city walls, as they used to the good times gone." I would give you the nobel.
ste c...zo of software house are forcing too much hand....but really there is no way to stem this crap? ?

they probably found the way to stop piracy, and now they maximize profits just as likely by making cartels. I sincerely in recent years have spent a decent % of my turnover to go behind the cads, to the face of those who said above that 20,000 euros are a ridiculous investment. When your turnover is 80,100,000, I feel like the soft affects a lot.

 

[drake]

The software houses are amazing to have customers who only enjoy x who have their updated software. Moreover, we see it in all sectors of the "new technologies", in the first place the phones that are increasingly intelligent in spite of their owners! returning to the cad, I do not understand how you can think that the new versions are more performing than the old, but I on my skin found that today with supermachines I do the same things that until recently I did with antiduliviane versions of my sw with machines that had 1/10 of the "power" of this ultratime. I still remember the presentation of my new version, 2016, which was advertised by saying that many fewer clicks were made... in a while they will tell us that just think about the project and the cad will realize it better than what we thought. I think it's time to see who's playing their game behind us and try not to move x do not, in fact, the opponent's game... :

 

[reggio]

... their game behind us...

... burn:wink:

 

[Utente cancellato 70856]

To believe that you can no longer work because in possession of a cad of last year or three years before it is simply ridiculous. they went on the moon drawing the saturno v with the tecnigraph. qlacuno really believes that I cannot continue to design and, I add, make innovation, using for example the current version of your cad for the next 10 or 15 years (we let the update of the so for the moment)
it would take a nice strike of renewal on a planetary level, organized as you must, to see him drop the arms on the public square and get down to several mitigations.

but the strike has existed for twenty years, since there is internet and since there are Russian and Chinese and Indian sites
and the sw house remakes of honest users

 

[cacciatorino]

The software houses are amazing to have customers who only enjoy x who have their updated software. Moreover, we see it in all sectors of the "new technologies", in the first place the phones that are increasingly intelligent in spite of their owners! returning to the cad, I do not understand how you can think that the new versions are more performing than the old, but I on my skin found that today with supermachines I do the same things that until recently I did with antiduliviane versions of my sw with machines that had 1/10 of the "power" of this ultratime. I still remember the presentation of my new version, 2016, which was advertised by saying that many fewer clicks were made... in a while they will tell us that just think about the project and the cad will realize it better than what we thought. I think it's time to see who's playing their game behind us and try not to move x do not, in fact, the opponent's game... :

Unfortunately, big companies are updating because:

1) get large volume discounts
2) for them the cost of the software is a small part of the general costs

The chain of suppliers unfortunately doesn't have much choice, so it's taken for the neck. The only thing he can do is increase the customer's fee.

 

[TAURUS77]

Unfortunately, big companies are updating because:

1) get large volume discounts
2) for them the cost of the software is a small part of the general costs

The chain of suppliers unfortunately doesn't have much choice, so it's taken for the neck. The only thing he can do is increase the customer's fee.

Now I shoot a big one... and if big companies even started using some freecad cad....poi open office, ubuntu....poi all that is free and that costs less...."imagine...all the people"

 

[Meteor02]

but then use all freecad exchanged neutral files and bona them. if you do not use freeware or open source cad is because commercial ones are better, softwerhouses are not onlus. solid version pro we had been proposed to about 7000 euros if you keep the version 3 years are little more than 2000 euros per year (ops 199 euros per month???? but here would always be updated) that does not seem to me an indispensable investment, think of a ferstore that in addition to the costs for the software there is also a 200000 euro of cut to pay. at the end with 200 euros per month allow you to work otherwise you just pass to the dark side of piracy and risk it to 0 euros per month.

 

[drake]

... burn:wink:

You better not go! :smile:

It is clear that free software is not at the same level as commercial software for obvious reasons, but I remember who knows it or who does not know it to take for example linux. born free and x everyone (not as someone else wants to believe) and see where he arrived... However, it is no doubt that the path taken is the one that will lead us to always get so much money, indeed more and more. not only for the cad, but x the so and x the pcs that we will be forced to change every two or three years. Just look at all the bugs that have for example sw, but I think they all have, related to win updates. I don't know if you've noticed that win 10 is just updated, unless you suspend it x a period. Not even that. In my humble opinion, the speech is clear and clear and demonstrated on my baldness.
then as hunter says x the big costs are irresponsible to me I am not at all, indeed...

 

[stevie]

a few days ago I got an email from a local dealer where the promotion "a license is free".
or buying two licenses the least expensive one is given free of charge.
Is that true? Is that a buffalo? Is there any gabola under there? (I almost certainly imagine)
Does anyone know anything about it?

 

[New Rider]

to me have reported that buying a license is given free an accessory license type simulation,composer,mdb or other... .

 

[drake]

I think the least expensive license offer is true. The msg came to me... They're becoming generous, we all have to believe...

 

[reggio]

They're becoming generous, we all have to believe...

... or are only taking the chase...

Who knows what?

"Hey, what are you doing back there so far? "

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