st2 disponibile download in inglese...

[Tequila]

on siemens website is available to download st2 only in English for
now (both 32 and 64 bits).

download obviously for who is registered to the site and can access it with the ip

Hi.

 

[cacciatorino]

on siemens website is available to download st2 only in English for
now (both 32 and 64 bits).

download obviously for who is registered to the site and can access it with the ip

Hi.

Only you can't download the license yet!

 

[Tequila]

Only you can't download the license yet!

uhmmm!!! I had not thought about it...now it is only a matter of time and then it will be available also in Italian. we hope that in addition to the improvements they made it more stable. st with mp 10 still has some crash problem.

 

[cacciatorino]

I read on the American forum that in st2 the sheet metal "sincrono" was not introduced, as not yet ready. The developers reserve to introduce it with a service pack next to the future, when the functionality is reliable as required by the quality standards of the siemens.

is available for beta-testers.

 

[Leso]

I just read it myself... if it's true it's a mega siemens autogol in my opinion.
I don't use sheet metal though if I were a customer who uses it, after all the advertising that you made, I would be at least undisputed.

 

[cacciatorino]

I just read it myself... if it's true it's a mega siemens autogol in my opinion.
I don't use sheet metal though if I were a customer who uses it, after all the advertising that you made, I would be at least undisputed.

Maybe a dickhead would have thought to fire half the developers to improve budget performance and cash out the prize!

 

[Gilsephony]

I read on the American forum that in st2 the sheet metal "sincrono" was not introduced, as not yet ready. The developers reserve to introduce it with a service pack next to the future, when the functionality is reliable as required by the quality standards of the siemens.

is available for beta-testers.

if we see the st's trunks and the continuous crashes I wonder: if the synchronous sheetmetal was not introduced due to bugs that happened to computers... Did they explode without notice? ? ?

 

[Marco74]

I just read it myself... if it's true it's a mega siemens autogol in my opinion.
I don't use sheet metal though if I were a customer who uses it, after all the advertising that you made, I would be at least undisputed.

I use practically only sheet metal and I counted... .

Hopefully.

 

[Be_on_edge]

I read on the American forum that in st2 the sheet metal "sincrono" was not introduced, as not yet ready. The developers reserve to introduce it with a service pack next to the future, when the functionality is reliable as required by the quality standards of the siemens.

is available for beta-testers.

But no?

Tell me where you're talking about it?

Thank you.

Hi.

 

[cacciatorino]

But no?

Tell me where you're talking about it?

Thank you.

Hi.

the subject is this:

"whoa, hold on there partner!"

in which the author does not spare heavy insults (I thought it was a prerogative of Italians!).

Still in the "what's new" of st2 you find something:
http://support.ugs.com/docs/se/st2/english/releasenotes/book.html:
finally, we are also introducing revolutionary new synchronous sheet metal modeling to the market. to ensure that this breakthrough new way to design sheet metal parts meets the rigorous demands of a production environment, we have chosen to extend the beta testing period for this portion of the product. we expect to transition to production release later this year via a maintenance pack. if you would like to participate in the beta program for synchronous sheet metal, please contact your usual support channel.

 

[Tequila]

who is ashamed... the siemens makes me laugh!!! It's a funny, man, it's 1 year that advertises stometal synchronous sheet and now they're backing.

already the menata to increase of 100 times productivity I do not digest it, that is not true, only if you have models already made to iron and/or change maybe you increase, but if you have to create them from scratch if one uses the synchronous environment it is better to do it in classic and then convert it to synchronous.

they had to focus on making the software stable, and leaner modeling with more intuitive commands. certain insights that introduced on the synchronous could also add them on the classic.

I think if they don't realize there will be a real move to other software cad.

 

[cacciatorino]

to precise question, the chief of developers dan staples has clarified that the sp with synchronous sheet metal working will be available to all users that on the date of September 24, 2009 were in active maintenance. It doesn't matter if in the meantime, that's when the sp is released, maintenance will be over.

 

[Gilsephony]

already provide a strong migrant flow to other software!

 

[cacciatorino]

already provide a strong migrant flow to other software!

apart from the jokes, it's a basic form of respect for those who renewed the maintenance contract right behind the promise that st2 would have this functionality.

 

[a.belloni]

the subject is this:

"whoa, hold on there partner!"

in which the author does not spare heavy insults (I thought it was a prerogative of Italians!).

Still in the "what's new" of st2 you find something:

I read a little the discussion that say "great" since they write without so many turns of words and without hair on the language "what a crock ..."
I like it when you raise the problem of quality and beta-test ...

from these discussions we have as the impression that siemens has entered a blind alley with st, in too many express doubts about the real functionality of this new technology.

but siemens could not wait, listen, edit, fix and update the software as required by users? ? ?

 

[Tequila]

from an info you had in the day would seem that when the Italian version will come out
of st2, the synchronous sheet module will be already integrated, but for now they are hall entries

 

[Gilsephony]

from an info you had in the day would seem that when the Italian version will come out
of st2, the synchronous sheet module will be already integrated, but for now they are hall entries

or the synchronous version of the sheets is almost definitive and the changes are very small

or the Italian version will go out to the Greek calends!

 

[cacciatorino]

from an info you had in the day would seem that when the Italian version will come out
of st2, the synchronous sheet module will be already integrated, but for now they are hall entries

Given the previous ones, these look like the classic sales promises... .

 

[Tequila]

Given the previous ones, these look like the classic sales promises... .

exact!!! By the way, I asked if the new fem module they integrated that handles assembly is part of the basic package with the classic license, or if it is a separate module.
the answer was that it is a new revolutionary method called simulation..., and I reiterated, it is ok but it is understood or not, but they have wiped, and I realized that they know nothing of it as well.

at the fair in Milan (and 2009) I got to see a demo of solidworks 2009, also because my colleague from 2006 insisted on showing me some things. Although I have to say that sw is much further than if, the improvements that have introduced in itself (and among other things only in synchronous environment) have been years that sw has them, and sincerely I am regretting to use if, even if the choice of this software was not mine but the company.
I unfortunately reiterate if to do certain operations I have to do mental saws, in sw I just do them.
really if you don't give a wake up in "cruccolandia siemens" risk losing customers... because it's menaced that they will not immediately introduce the synchronous sheet after all promises and the admirable decantate stories that have made you that the customers who had taken off from the update canon have resigned under contract, it is really a low hit.

as already said long ago on another topic in the company we have the contract for another 3 years, so until st3 or 4 we have the already paid canon, but if with st2 or max 3 do not lead to a level of quality, stability and simple logic of use, I will really lead to choose to change software.

sincerely I am very disappointed by siemens

 

[cacciatorino]

at the fair in Milan (and 2009) I got to see a demo of solidworks 2009, also because my colleague from 2006 insisted on showing me some things. I have to say that sw is much further than if, the improvements that have introduced in itself (and among other things only in synchronous environment) have been years that sw ce le

the direct modelling is available in itself for a long time (menu "change").

Bye.