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[Tequila]

the direct modelling is available in itself for a long time (menu "change").

Bye.

I'm not talking about direct modeling, I know it well, I'm talking about when you model a detail from scratch, odd disconnecting issues, problems in sketch relationships and other things. on the synchronous now when creating a sketch already automatically feels the region, in the classic environment there is, in sw have years that have it.
I talk about a series of improvements, insights, simplifications of when you start modeling a particular from scratch. I'm sorry to say, but I'm not there.
if one uses models already made as they show us on all demos is an account. then in assembly environment if you have to change a piece, you have to select it, click dx, change, make changes, go to home and say close (until the v20 it was enough to escape), in sw you do double click on the particular in assembly and already you have the odds of the model 3d editable.
then the possibility to change a 3d model straight from the draft, in if I have never seen that there is. and then all is myriad of environments that there is in itself, i.e. par, psm, asm, pwd, dft and now also par,psm, synchronous asm, we arrived to 8 environments, to make only 3, i.e. part, together and drawing board was too complicated, to do in part while model the possibility to decide if the particular is a sheet, without that I have to choose.
I don't know how you're used to working, but at the end of the day all the small things would make me earn a few half an hour if not even hours of work.

These things have already been discussed a long time ago, I have also pointed out to the assistance, but in siemens they have the flaws.

 

[cacciatorino]

then in assembly environment if you have to change a piece, you have to select it, click dx, change, make changes, go to home and say close (until the v20 it was enough to escape), in sw you do double click on the particular in assembly and already you have the odds of the model 3d editable.

I do not know if even in st.

then the possibility to change a 3d model straight from the draft, in if I have never seen that there is.

true

and then all is myriad of environments that there is in itself, i.e. par, psm, asm, pwd, dft and now also par,psm, synchronous asm, we arrived to 8 environments, to make only 3, i.e. part, together and drawing board was too complicated, to do in part while model the possibility to decide if the particular is a sheet, without that I have to choose.

True, I happen to myself when I do a part and then I realize I wanted an assembly. I don't know how swx handles these cases.

I don't know how you're used to working, but at the end of the day all the small things would make me earn a few half an hour if not even hours of work.

Fortunately that then time I recover those twice a week that I have to use the rm, which seems to me is a tool and other competing software do not have (the pack&go is only a 5% of the revision manger... ).

p.s. I have the impression that siemens only interests big customers, the little ones are abandoned to themselves (or swx!).

Bye.

 

[Tequila]

to me the double click works sometimes with the st, then to return you have to press the red x in the home, but if you are on another menu you have to press on the start one. at the end of the day the clicks are increased to unmistress.

programs like revision managers also have others, also swx and it works like that of if, for assemblies and what else.

for the unique environment of modeling, the other software uses the system that have all the controls on a single environment, when models you have the complete freedom to decide what you want to create, from a solid to a sheet (obviously with all the crypts of the case that the particular one can convert it into sheet metal), without having to change the choice, open another environment and remake from scratch or with paste copy to move the sketches or convert it to another sheet.

if even in siemens simplify life to people would be better. could manage in the background the passage from one environment to another...
However we will see a little how the 3d world will evolve in the future.

your ps is true...the siemens only listens to the great and only in the nx world and not in itself

 

[Tequila]

I checked the ftp site if there were solid edge update and I saw that now it is also available in Italian st2 (32 and 64 bit), obviously for those who are in regular maintenance license.

v102 licenses are also available

hi and good download... praying the sky that fixed it a little:smile:

 

[cacciatorino]

v102 licenses are also available

Did you try to download the v102 license? I tried yesterday and spit in an eye. He said I wasn't allowed to call the caa or cas I don't remember well.

 

[Leso]

I'm downloading... what am I doing? install? :biggrin:
I have no dependence on suppliers and/or customers. ..touch.

 

[Tequila]

Did you try to download the v102 license? I tried yesterday and spit in an eye. He said I wasn't allowed to call the caa or cas I don't remember well.

look I'm downloading the prg and I'm 30% when I finish I also try to download the license and then I tell you

 

[radio]

...passing from a solid to a sheet (obviously with all the crypts of the case that the particular can be converted into sheet metal), without having to in case of change chosen, open another environment and remake from scratch or with paste copy move the sketches or convert it into sheet metal passing from one environment to another.

I have never understood why there is this limitation, to the point that I always start from a .psm model, if then it is necessary continuous as a sheet, otherwise I pass to the environment of solid modeling.
such is the habit that sometimes I also make particulars to return as .psm!

 

[Tequila]

look I'm downloading the prg and I'm 30% when I finish I also try to download the license and then I tell you

I've got the mistake, boh!!! I will feel the assistance what they will tell me
Hi.

 

[Leso]

I have no problem downloading it.
now we see how much it resists the temptation to install it

 

[Tequila]

I have never understood why there is this limitation, to the point that I always start from a .psm model, if then it is necessary continuous as a sheet, otherwise I pass to the environment of solid modeling.
such is the habit that sometimes I also make particulars to return as .psm!

Tell me how do you manage pieces to return to psm?? ? if you tell me that drawings washers and then in the workshop manage them as turned discs I'm okay, otherwise it's absurd since commands like excavation or protusion of revolution are not there in psm environment (at least not on st)

My speech goes well beyond that. They introduce a myriad of environments, which instead of simplifying life to the designer complicate it. do 3 environments (par,asm and dft) and then one within this decides whether it is a part or psm, if synchronous or classic it seemed to me the most logical solution. as it already happens now, if you do not create a starting feature the commands are disabled, so if I make a piece with a thickness and then decide that instead of a plate is a sheet, I make a click I say that it is sheetwood select the quota that gives me the thickness and consequently enabled or disabled the commands of that environment. look as soon as I find a free medium I prepare concrete examples so at least I compare myself with you to see if I am right or if I am wrong.

Hi.

 

[Leso]

Well, what does that have to do with it? in the psm environment I can go to part quietly, I do all the revolutions I want and then if I want to develop a turned disk I go back to psm...no well this last thing maybe jumps :tongue:

 

[radio]

quoto leso, step to the environment part and work as in a .par file.
what I don't understand is why you can switch from sheet metal environment to parts modeling environment, and return, but you can't do the opposite.
There will be a good reason, but I'd like to meet you.
Hello, everyone.

 

[Tequila]

Well, what does that have to do with it? in the psm environment I can go to part quietly, I do all the revolutions I want and then if I want to develop a turned disk I go back to psm...no well this last thing maybe jumps :tongue:

good, congratulations.... but if I want to do the opposite??? ? ?

example: I have a cover made of plastic fusion in the form of parallelepipedo
I want to change and make it of sheet metal, a banal box. I have to do it again because I can't pass from part to psm, while fixing the part with all the characteristics that can have a spreadsheet of this type.

so!!! I have to remake the piece in psm, replace it, put all the constraints, win the screws if there are, etc. besides going to re-edit the properties of the file again. or import it as part copy on the psm, open the lembi, etc. etc. in short always escamotage and click to dismiss
something interchangeable on both environments, or as I say a single environment.

My question arises spontaneously: where are the 100 times faster than other software that advertise so much?

 

[Tequila]

quoto leso, step to the environment part and work as in a .par file.
what I don't understand is why you can switch from sheet metal environment to parts modeling environment, and return, but you can't do the opposite.
There will be a good reason, but I'd like to meet you.
Hello, everyone.

That's good. I wanted to get here. read my event just written above!

 

[cacciatorino]

My question arises spontaneously: where are the 100 times faster than other software that advertise so much?

this is the typical question to do on the American forum by addressing it to developers, especially if one adds: "No, because I saw swx do it."
Usually this makes him light all the bulbs! :biggrin:

 

[Tequila]

this is the typical question to do on the American forum by addressing it to developers, especially if one adds: "No, because I saw swx do it."
Usually this makes him light all the bulbs! :biggrin:

eh si...but when we talked with the assistance of ste things during the upgrade course for the st, for the precisely learned from my colleague who comes from 10 years of use of swx, (it uses it from 98), the assistance replied that in siemens does not care what the other software houses do and we said:

Are you kidding me? ? that in siemens do not look at what competition does,
and then it takes 10 years because they put sti cabbage of polygons or the scale drawing
automatically or that they agree that the regulations are there.

look at me a courtesy, send me to pvt how to access the American forum because I tried with the license login but I can't.

Thank you.

 

[cacciatorino]

look at me a courtesy, send me to pvt how to access the American forum because I tried with the license login but I can't.

I'll put it here so much for everyone!

The address of the new interface is this:
http://bbsnotes.ugs.com/vbulletin/then you access the login page (see attachment) where you enter webkey and password (the same as you used to download service packs and new releases).

I usually use thunderbird (also outlook goes well), for that you have to create a newsgroup account by putting as a server:

bbsnotes.ugs.com

and user and pass as above.

 

[Tequila]

Thank you

 

[Leso]

I've got the mistake, boh!!! I will feel the assistance what they will tell me
Hi.

news?
Today I do not want to call the assistance :smile: