what a future for t3?

[flaviobrio88]

I think total trust can only be found in open source.

open source is something that fascinates me little, despite in some cases I make use of it, I still believe in the rule "feed as you spend"

 

[Matteo]

Forgive me matteo but in this I have an opinion exactly opposite, especially talking about software so complex and that they serve to work. not that private companies do miracles, but with opensource, although I have excellent possibilities due to the collaboration of many, you have no guarantee of anything.

Forgive you??? What?? :

in the cad sector (unfortunately) I give you reason.

but in the fem/cfd sector it is not always so. In particular: to administer (with profit) the "destin" of an open source tool is possible, see for example the case of openfoam.

Another thing: in the budget of a software house, how much is the percentage of revenues destined to finance in a strict sense programmers and technicians? what is the percentage that keeps the pyramid of the sales network standing? the "piramide" (of which each step is a balzello...) occupies much staff and resources more than the commercial network. . .

 

[mulamula]

Does anyone know if f3d they sold me last year is think3? to me it looks identical but under other name. I can't find it from any pruning on the internet. Thank you.

 

[Tequila]

Does anyone know if f3d they sold me last year is think3? to me it looks identical but under other name. I can't find it from any pruning on the internet. Thank you.

read the rules of the forum and presented, it is always the usual solfa... subscribe to the forums and do not read the rules.

Then something... You write that they sold you I'm f3d, but who sold it to you didn't let you know what's wrong? or better still if you have the package "maybe" somewhere there will be the name of the manufacturer. Mah!!!

 

[MBT]

Does anyone know if f3d they sold me last year is think3? to me it looks identical but under other name. I can't find it from any pruning on the internet. Thank you.

You're from the drill, aren't you?
I bet you sold a character named francesco or patrick :tongue:

 

[The_Matrix]

Why am I sorry?
What do you mean you just have to trust big companies?
if everyone did so goodnight to the dreamers.
Also nug, from what I remember, was a pmi like many others and we do not talk about prehistory.
If I don't remember badly it was given as a gift with the parpas, can you confirm?

No.
I meant to say that toy married ds... and his division it sells t3... Boh.

we don't give anything... Parpas dava ug in conjunction with his machines... He paid us and paid him to customers as part of the car. Let's talk about prehistory anyway.
now, if the customer has nx and wants mu + post, we provide it.

 

[Fabrycad]

Hello everyone, I am new to the forum, and I am also a designer who has been using t3 for several years. Unfortunately in recent times, even the undersigned has been bombarded with calls from t3 italia and from poured, in which punctually as logical that it is, everyone made so many beautiful words for its product, and you had a certain inclination in throwing tons of manure on the other.... However, there is a judgment of the Bologna court which rejects the request for payment to validate the purchase contract of t3, so in my view, since we are in Italy, we must submit to the decisions taken by our legal bodies. This cmq war does not do well to the t3 in the first place, because it slows down its development, and makes "scappare" many designers towards other lids.
In fact, I confess that this situation cmq has already exhausted me, and I am seriously thinking of changing air and directing myself to some other software in the future, even if this involves difficulties of passage from one to another, such as migration of the historian, training my staff of the new software etc...
In this regard, I ask who has great experience in various software, what can be a software valid for my needs? I work a lot on the 2d, so I need a software that has a functional and quite complete 2d. but sometimes I also have to use the 3d to design components, make assemblies, make simulations, and sometimes make jpg rendering images, to use them as product presentations on the web or on paper catalog. I would like to ask you to give me some indication of such software, I would say medium-range

 

[cacciatorino]

I would like to ask you to give me some indication of such software, I would say medium-range

talking about the cads on which I have experience, like solid edge and solidworks, I feel like neither has a sufficiently autonomous table module (from 3d) so that I can be considered at thinkdraft height. I used it last time many years ago but I remember that as 2d was practically complete.

for other cads I can't tell you.

 

[Fabrycad]

talking about the cads on which I have experience, like solid edge and solidworks, I feel like neither has a sufficiently autonomous table module (from 3d) so that I can be considered at thinkdraft height. I used it last time many years ago but I remember that as 2d was practically complete.

for other cads I can't tell you.

thanks for the indication. I had talked about solid edge, of which besides, it is possible to download from the website part 2d for free

 

[cacciatorino]

thanks for the indication. I had talked about solid edge, of which besides, it is possible to download from the website part 2d for free

As good as the 2d module is, in my opinion it is still not up to being used as a pure 2d. I actually also when I have to study in 2d, I prefer to use gbg.

However, you can try it, since it's free.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

thanks for the indication. I had talked about solid edge, of which besides, it is possible to download from the website part 2d for free

It also evaluates well I create (ex pro/e) especially for the new development of the table setting with create layout that seems to promise very well, both with regard to the explicit and parametric part.

greetings

 

[lubos]

ciao ragazzi!!
anche nell'uff.tecnico che io gestisco usiamo da svariati anni t3 x cui abbiam dovuto ciucciarci le vicissitudini relative,ma adesso che t3 e' definitivamente ripartita e stan
rimettendo su la struttura di bologna con la gestione di un apposito ente(che ci ha fatto visita e ci ha ispirato fiducia),a settembre scaricheremo la 20011.1 e vedremo se qualche
miglioria c'e' stata(quote non relazionate x esempio,il ns maggiore cruccio).
x cui dopo avere pensato di virare su solidworks o inventor daremo ancora una volta
fiducia a t3,consci che comunque e' un programma "rimasto"un po' indietro rispetto
ai 2 che ho prima citato.
vedremo,ma se avete consigli dite...thanks

 

[Mauro:)]

in effetti, dovremmo prorio aspettare e vedere cosa succede... e bene ha fatto chi non ha ceduto a versata. per rimettere in piedi la struttura credo ci vorrà un po' di tempo, molti collaboratori avranno sicuramente trovato altro impiego e considerando che il software negli ultimi tempi non ha lasciato vedere grosse innovazioni... non so proprio cosa pensare. chi vuole essere competitivo cosa dovrebbe fare? sarebbe bello però dare fiducia ad un'azienda italiana.

 

[lubos]

e comunque sarei curioso di sapere se solidworks o inventor sono realmente
molto piu' performanti di t3 nel fare un modello e poi la relativa tavola 2d,mah...

 

[cacciatorino]

e comunque sarei curioso di sapere se solidworks o inventor sono realmente
molto piu' performanti di t3 nel fare un modello e poi la relativa tavola 2d,mah...

a suo tempo passare da t3 a solid edge fu un vero sollievo, ma erano i tempi in cui t3 crashava ogni 20 minuti per "memory could not be read".

 

[MBT]

a suo tempo passare da t3 a solid edge fu un vero sollievo, ma erano i tempi in cui t3 crashava ogni 20 minuti per "memory could not be read".

a suo tempo, per me, passare da t3 a inv fu un vero sollievo, anche senza il "memory could not be read" !:finger:

 

[Mauro:)]

ho avuto una parentesi con solidwork per quasi tre anni, utilizzavo la versione 2005. modellazione solida molto molto bene, lavorare con superfici importate per eseguire operazioni sui solidi molto molto male... tavola piuttosto lenta... e comunque solo messa in tavola da modello.

 

[cacciatorino]

ho avuto una parentesi con solidwork per quasi tre anni, utilizzavo la versione 2005. modellazione solida molto molto bene, lavorare con superfici importate per eseguire operazioni sui solidi molto molto male... tavola piuttosto lenta... e comunque solo messa in tavola da modello.

su questo hai ragione, la messa int avola di swx e' ancora molto indietro rispetto a cio' che possono fare se e t3 (non ho esperienze dirette con altri cad).

 

[lubos]

we now find ourselves in the situation that from the 4 current licences falls in September
We need another 2 x 2 new designers, and from t3 I was shot a figure of 8000 licensed...see the situation I had not to give but almost...inventor,solidworks and I create are
about the 6500(the basic versions)and super treatable(I have not yet treated with t3,but the starting base is that,8000....).
inventor made me offer with discount 40% even. ..considering that we talk about 6 stations so at this time buy 2 new t3 at these conditions I don't know...it seems absurd.. I received assurances say "techniques" of resolution at least of the main problems, though. .
Do you have any advice?

 

[cacciatorino]

Do you have any advice?

Let him see the inventor! :biggrin:

But consider: If you go to inventor or others, you have to buy all the licenses, you can't think you have a heterogeneous working environment. Do they still rent annually? Maybe you do a year's rent so you can see what's going to end in this year.