what hardware for nx?

[radio]

with ram etc you have the advantage that if there are errors on the same these are corrected and it works equally, but it costs more... if you read the thread of my home pc problem a 2gb bench with errors sent me to lock the pc (besides the problems with the vga ).
on the ws hp in the office I ram etc and anyway I think if you buy a ws seen what cost I already have ram etc or anyway it is tested before delivery

I tell you my little experience with rams etc.
in 2006, together with the solid egde, the company also acquired 5 ws hp 4300 equipped with p4 and ram etc; after a few years of operation without problems one morning a ws refused to leave viewing an error messaging due to problems on the ecc, solution: disabled by bios ecc, ws continued to work smoothly as before; a few months after another ws gave the same problem, applied same solution.
both ws are still in service, although they are now intended for minor tasks.
over time we have replaced ws hp with normal pcs assembled with i7 (black ed. overckloccabili), ram not etc, ssd and 2000 picture and all work egregiously.
Since in the company I am the "hw consultant", also for the future I will remain oriented on assembled ws, with quality components of course.

Bye.

 

[IB-Motorsport]

Since in the company I am the "hw consultant", also for the future I will remain oriented on assembled ws, with quality components of course.

Bye.

I fully subscribe to the assembly costs less and goes 1000 times better and if it breaks ... go on the internet you send the pieces a screwdriver and 10min. and away... other than assistance and dances...

I once was in a company that had all sun ... certified ... I never saw a dying bigger than cars.... expensive machines at the time all mounted firewire ... but who of you managed to find a peripheral, like an external disk or other that is firewire and if you at reasonable prices!

in another company... where I went after, that it was a multinational, it was served by a shop in the country that assembled him some fantastic machines... they were 1/4 of the suns ... they went to ball! and I did not see a burn in 3 years!! !

:finger:

 

[Er Presidente]

are far away the times when you could mount simple repentum 1000 in parallel :biggrin:.
Good memories, a great car.

but remaining to the probable choice and then talking about money
I noticed in your interventions a strong propensity to save.
what actually meets my favors :biggrin:

Today I'm putting myself on the net looking for prices and a comparison. :wink:

the i7 has eight "virtual" cores the cpus are 4.
the xeon, last series has 6 of physical cores.
xeon is born to be paralleled with other twins, so they are built and designed to be "precise", they heat less and are much more stable, the constipability that is inherent is the thermal one and the operation "predictable" in every condition, having to work with other twins.
alone xeon is a waste, it only makes sense on motherboards Moltecpu, along with a twin.
If you have a pair of xeon (or more) you have 12 physical cores and the performance is inaccessible.
I repeat myself is just a waste, better an i7.

 

[enri]

at this point better an i7 3939k to six core, out of very little, overloccable easily is at the top performance, but I keep not knowing how many cores use nx, but why don't you tell me? :biggrin:

 

[Er Presidente]

at this point better an i7 3939k to six core, out of very little, overloccable easily is at the top performance, but I keep not knowing how many cores use nx, but why don't you tell me? :biggrin:

like everyone, use only one thread and win cares to spread it among the various cores.
some specific functions open a separate thread and then see some cpu zompare, but it's not a "organic" job unfortunately.

p.s.: I7 also went to 6 cores! I didn't know, thank you.

 

[enri]

Well there were already 970-980-990, now the new 3930-3960.
So it's not good to have more core? instead of adding feature why do not optimize code?

 

[sail]

Try putting two i7 in parallel and you'll see what the xeons are for.
:biggrin:

you did not say parallel through what... :biggrin:

 

[IPdesign]

at this point better an i7 3939k to six core, out of very little, overloccable easily is at the top performance, but I keep not knowing how many cores use nx, but why don't you tell me? :biggrin:

you know how many cores use nx:biggrin: few unfortunately ....

 

[IPdesign]

Well there were already 970-980-990, now the new 3930-3960.
So it's not good to have more core? instead of adding feature why do not optimize code?

sooner or later they will, trust me...
You tell him what they have to do.

:biggrin:

sooner or later:biggrin:

 

[IPdesign]

returning to topic,
I decided to stay within i7 and therefore I have little documented and here I have confused even more ideas ... as if I had not already confused them of mine.

I have seen that always in the i7 we have basically 2 soket + 1 brand new
lga 1155 x i7-2à 2600 and 2700 ( 3.4 and 3.5 )
lga 2011 x i7-2à 3930 (3.2 )
lga 1366 x i7 990x (3.46 )

What do you prefer?
I would discard 2011 as practically unavailable and due to the costs of cpus to be combined
remain the other 2
Is a 1366 with a 990x limited to you?
keep in mind that I would not need the graphics available to the i7 of 2nd generation.

Here you served a range of doubts to stimulate the discussion again.
:biggrin:

 

[enri]

the 990x just let it lose, it is not worth taking the esacore of the previous generation, then this is the highest frequency one and should cost a thousand euros. you should choose between the average four-core sandy bridges, i7 2600k, and those of high end the sandy bridges and, to six cores, i7 3930k, the first is cheap enough on 250 euros, quad core with hyper t. 8 tread and is fast, the second is a six-core splinter with ht, and costs on 500 euros, but precisely depends on how nx uses the core, if they are fewer
the new socket however is found here, cpu included, maybe they will have real availability in a few days, they went out now, but online already they find it.

 

[IPdesign]

Okay, then I'll send to the beginning of January
now that we are under holidays I think prices will rise for obvious reasons

 

[Er Presidente]

you did not say parallel through what... :biggrin:

And I thought I'd make the super-nalotto predictions!
:smile:

 

[The_Matrix]

like everyone, use only one thread and win cares to spread it among the various cores.
some specific functions open a separate thread and then see some cpu zompare, but it's not a "organic" job unfortunately.

p.s.: I7 also went to 6 cores! I didn't know, thank you.

correct.
for example nx uses the "multi" only for some complex hlr and boolean functions. . .
From the tests I did on my car, there's no difference. . .
on the contrary, sometimes not always, it goes more slowly with the "ugi_usa_il_multiprocessor_per_favore_se_ti_avanza_un_attimo=1"

 

[IPdesign]

refresh this tread to update you on my adventure.
last week, now exhausted by having to use an inadequate means that kept inventing a different problem every time it was started, I decided to buffer an urgent situation with an investment at the least indispensable.

an accomplice to a visit to a shopping center I came out of this with a desktop computer brand hp mounting a processor i7 2600 to 3.4
I deliberately chose the cheapest machine at the same processor I knew that it didn't need any graphics or even ram quantities.

arrived in the office I open the medium, I remove the graphics and I put a picture fx 3400 that I had previously in the old workstation.
Unfortunately, the 3400 drivers for win 7 still created problems and made the system unstable again.
the next day I recover a new 2000 picture crossing the fingers.

result? an abyss, I cannot believe that graphics, but above all drivers can change so drastically the behavior of a pc.

now the difference between the old dual opteron and this new pc is impressive.
tomorrow should arrive the 16gb ram equipped with a 120gb ssd disc, I keep you updated

 

[The_Matrix]

refresh this tread to update you on my adventure.
last week, now exhausted by having to use an inadequate means that kept inventing a different problem every time it was started, I decided to buffer an urgent situation with an investment at the least indispensable.

an accomplice to a visit to a shopping center I came out of this with a desktop computer brand hp mounting a processor i7 2600 to 3.4
I deliberately chose the cheapest machine at the same processor I knew that it didn't need any graphics or even ram quantities.

arrived in the office I open the medium, I remove the graphics and I put a picture fx 3400 that I had previously in the old workstation.
Unfortunately, the 3400 drivers for win 7 still created problems and made the system unstable again.
the next day I recover a new 2000 picture crossing the fingers.

result? an abyss, I cannot believe that graphics, but above all drivers can change so drastically the behavior of a pc.

now the difference between the old dual opteron and this new pc is impressive.
tomorrow should arrive the 16gb ram equipped with a 120gb ssd disc, I keep you updated

for curiosity
- How much did you pay the pc?
- How much did you pay for the 2000s?
- How much ram does the 2000 picture have?
Did you try both certified and last drivers for the 3400?
- How much ram does the pc default?
- How much did you pay the 16 gb ram?
- How much is the 120 gb?

 

[IPdesign]

here are the costs

660,00 € - pc hp pavilion h8 1012 it
80,00 € - 4 x 4 gb ram 1333
400,00 € - nvidia Framework 2000
160,00 € - ssd 120gb corsair csd-f120gb3-bk force3

1300 € = total excluding VAT

I would point out to those who might object that savings are not exempting that the choice was at least forced by urgency.
having had more time probably a hundred heur in less could have saved.
However I had the actual confirmation that you do not need to spend capital to have a good system.

to complete I add that even with the 4gb of ram to kit you can work anyway, I do it by loading a mold for a couple of car lights using as full loading options, then over 600 pcs of total size of 700mb on hd.
idem said for the disk supplied by 1tb marked hitachi
In my opinion, if you want to save, you could be satisfied with the machine with the only replacement of the graphics, even with 600 picture tested by a customer/friend (€178 )
which means being able to work with 800€

if you need more info please ask :biggrin:

 

[Nic65]

However I had the actual confirmation that you do not need to spend capital to have a good system.

Very true. propio yesterday I bought a workstation of the t1600 with processor xeon 3.4ghz quad core, 8gb ram etc (I chose 16gb ram non-ecc but they said that the 8gb etc are more performing), picture card 2000 1gb, 2 hard drive from 500gb, so windows 7 and various fines for a total of about 1600 euros.
I can't wait to try it with nx 7.5. hopefully well

 

[IPdesign]

Very true. propio yesterday I bought a workstation of the t1600 with processor xeon 3.4ghz quad core, 8gb ram etc (I chose 16gb ram non-ecc but they said that the 8gb etc are more performing), picture card 2000 1gb, 2 hard drive from 500gb, so windows 7 and various fines for a total of about 1600 euros.
I can't wait to try it with nx 7.5. hopefully well

Could you give us a figure for a comparison?
of course you also pay them a service and it is right to spend more:finger:

 

[Nic65]

Could you give us a figure for a comparison?
of course you also pay them a service and it is right to spend more:finger:

if I had to send purchase request from the site of without contacting their operator the above configuration I would have paid it 1858 euros + VAT. the same configuration, contacting one of their operators, came 1600 euros (free of charge since it is purchased abroad). all inclusive, with assistance, operating system, 1 year warranty, microsot office, antivirus, network card etc... I have to say they made a great discount. I can't forget the costs by giving you piece-by-piece value as you start from a base machine with a cost that varies in relation to the replaced pieces.
I hope I have understood well and I want to know this: