extrusion advice: curiosity

[MassiVonWeizen]

this depends on the customer's requests.
there is who asks for the drawing of the finished piece and then arranges him to get the plates.
who asks for the total and the individual parts but not developments to obtain the plates
who asks for the total with the cut-off and the parts and their developments perhaps on separate boards or all in a table.
if instead the design you do it for your company you have to follow your logistic iter that interfaces with office purchases and workshop

 

[volaff]

We thank you very much for the delucidation.
I'm trying to help but I noticed that when I put the first part together the origin of this does not coincide with the origin of the aid. Shouldn't that happen by default?

Moreover, for completeness, when I make the table of a piece of sheet metal it is advisable to put, for example, for part 1, front side view, isometric and flat repetition for realization?

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I'm trying to help but I noticed that when I put the first part together the origin of this does not coincide with the origin of the aid. Shouldn't that happen by default?

as it is written in the guide click in the graphics area to place the component or click on

per posizionare l'the origin of the component with the origin of the axieme.

Moreover, for completeness, when I make the table of a piece of sheet metal it is advisable to put, for example, for part 1, front side view, isometric and flat repetition for realization?

the design must contain all the information necessary for the construction of the piece; If two or three or six seen are enough, you must know. development as I said before may or may not be required by the customer/supplier; if there are no specifics better to put it. the issometric is a hub that makes the design more cute and sometimes helps the builder to better understand the particular

 

[volaff]

as it is written in the guide click in the graphics area to place the component or click on

per posizionare l'the origin of the component with the origin of the axieme.
the design must contain all the information necessary for the construction of the piece; If two or three or six seen are enough, you must know. development as I said before may or may not be required by the customer/supplier; if there are no specifics better to put it. the issometric is a hub that makes the design more cute and sometimes helps the builder to better understand the particular

very kind as always.
I will follow all advice especially on welding.

Good Sunday.

 

[volaff]

Good evening.
as you suggested it is more "identity" to insert the welding symbol and indications on a lateral view instead of caterpillar.

In this case I could insert the caterpillar with the symbol in front view, but in the side? Should I use a separate welding cut in this case?

For example, in the flat repetition of the first component, can I quote flat plate even if it is "stored" ?

Thank you very much for your patience.
Good evening.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

In this case I could insert the caterpillar with the symbol in front view, but in the side? Should I use a separate welding cut in this case?

do a section. also because you must indicate that the welding on the other side of the piece does not go there.
but does it make sense to put those different measures of the welding cords? Did you do the calculations or did you make them feel? In addition, how do you indicate to the operator the correct positions where the 20mm traits should be made? put 50mm stretches with 50mm space and you're fine (if you need to make the welding calculation and in case you correct the intensity of the strokes, but keep them constant) if not even make a continuous welding

in the flat repetition of the first component I can quote the flat plate even if it is "stored"

if you insert the development of the sheet obviously you have to quote it to allow the operator to cut it correctly before the fold. otherwise you put it to do, to fill the sheet and the operator takes the measurements with the stepmeter?

note in margin:
if you have entered the weldings in the part insert them into the board through the command Enter>elements model and selecting the view to place them.
in the image see an example of how to indicate them

in the pdf of welds (representation welds) that I attached in post#133 there is in fig.28 the indication of how an intermittent welding is quoted. the 5-2x40/60 as you see indicates a welding with side 5 for 2 long stretches 40mm spaced 60mm; I think it is enough to indicate length and distance and I leave the amount that especially in long parts is an information that seems superfluous.

 

[volaff]

Thank you very much for the tips.
Actually, I just tried to make a 3d of a dwg file that passed me so the welds are already reported. Actually, it does sections of the front view, but (according to me) it does a little to the cabbage.

using the section as done by you I would only bring them back to the side view without engaging the other views in a profitable manner.

Thanks again for the advice.

Good evening.

 

[volaff]

Good morning.
I tried to do how you basically suggested me how to indicate the 4 welds? ♪
I have two welds a3/75 on the two sides of the 150 between them while I have two more a3/20 away from the edges 20+35. How can I tell you at the same time?
if I use intermittent welding I can only make the two side a3/75 and not the others together.

How do you feel about the flat repetition of the two plates?
correctly quoted?

Thank you very much for your patience.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

but not the original design? quote like that

 

[volaff]

but not the original design? quote like that

Yes, I have to show you and he's listed so you know what I mean.

 

[volaff]

but not the original design? quote like that

Sorry again the trouble I imported a small subaxieme in step (so solidworks sees it without constraints), now I would need to model each part (even if clicking on the part with the right button "open part". ...procede to the recognition of functions in the featureworks modifying ok closes the program.
how can I model on the imported file?

if I sketch on a plan and go with "convert entities" selects the profile but completely defined of which I do not have the odds if I remove the constraints then.

Thank you all.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

a step file is always without historical.
the automatic generation of functions always contains sketches without relationships and without quotas and is subdefined. the function criterion can also be not optimal for the need for modeling (on the criteria of how they are created I have no idea but I am unbalanced on a mere deduction of performance and processing)
when making a convert entity the sketch has always been without quotas and the only relationships are South that allows to maintain the profile from which it is obtained also in case of modification of these.
the only way to recreate a part starting from a step in a logical and usable way is to define a modeling iter and measure the model. Sometimes you can take advantage of the convert entity where then you have to delete the sketch reports to reassign them correctly and enter the necessary quotas, but this is not always possible.

 

[volaff]

a step file is always without historical.
the automatic generation of functions always contains sketches without relationships and without quotas and is subdefined. the function criterion can also be not optimal for the need for modeling (on the criteria of how they are created I have no idea but I am unbalanced on a mere deduction of performance and processing)
when making a convert entity the sketch has always been without quotas and the only relationships are South that allows to maintain the profile from which it is obtained also in case of modification of these.

the only way to recreate a part starting from a step in a logical and usable way is to define a modeling iter and measure the model. Sometimes you can take advantage of the convert entity where then you have to delete the sketch reports to reassign them correctly and enter the necessary quotas, but this is not always possible.

I understand thanks for the explanation.
the problem of measuring the model is how to do when, for example, a measurement on the model is, 29.7603. what approximation to use?

I'm trying!

 

[xxfast]

you can probably round a few decimals, but it depends on the project specifications.
from the work that must carry out the object in question or the specifics of the customer.... .

 

[volaff]

Hello, everyone.
I have an example of a small set and should "bind" the rotation of part 2 with that of part 3, i.e. the important part is the 2 that rotate should drag solidally the 3, but I can not realize the axieme while remaining that being 2 the fixed part of course I made it mobile to make the example.
Is there any kind of special coupling to be able/to be used?
How could I proceed?

thanks in any case to all.
good start of day.

 

[xxfast]

Bye.
You missed the constraint on the front floor, the last one I added, to make part 1. rigid.
said this, you could also insert part 1 into the axieme rigidly, giving the mobile push from the bread task.
View attachment esempio.zip

 

[volaff]

In the meantime, thank you, but maybe I felt bad.
I purposely made part 2 mobile because I wanted to understand how to make a small set in which rotating 2 it drags in rotation also part 3, I don't know if I made the idea.

thanks for the interest in any case.
Good to make.

 

[xxfast]

I'm sorry, I misunderstood... you used to want some scissor-like couplings... if I have time, I'll take my hand...

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

test withcolliding toothing command Move. I couldn't verify it because it closes my program and I don't want to understand why
but it is not a good example to ask for help. if you don't tie the first part so that you just roar, while now you move completely back and forth, we have to put hands on your matings to add constraints (what little account, but that takes away time).
also how does such an object work? Part 3 has two teeth where part 2 is stuck, how do they rotate? Think about it.. .

 

[volaff]

test withcolliding toothing command Move. I couldn't verify it because it closes my program and I don't want to understand why
but it is not a good example to ask for help. if you don't tie the first part so that you just roar, while now you move completely back and forth, we have to put hands on your matings to add constraints (what little account, but that takes away time).
also how does such an object work? Part 3 has two teeth where part 2 is stuck, how do they rotate? Think about it.. .

I think you're right.
I apologize for not having bound the main part, as usual the rush is a bad adviser.
In fact, I would like the two teeth to be soidal to part 2 and there was the concentric relationship; to the eye, in this way, the two parts should be solid and turning one should turn the other too.

on the weekend if I have time.
sometimes the rush and bad adviser and in the offices want fast things, unfortunately!

wagliu soon!