...if impossible to develop? ? ?

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

It doesn't work for me, too.
I have a 32bit version, maybe the only thing different from you...

 

[controllofiamma]

is already sp 4.0

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

When fixed with ctrl q and saved it works well. before saving it from the trouble all the time... .

 

[SolidUser]

... then. .
Yes, the "problematic" is that, the profile and way to run it as well.
just opened your file is fine, everything regular. but if I enter into a sketch and define it or change a relationship, on the return part jumps out the notice and misses a fold.
after a "random" series updated list of items and reconstructions return to place, but if I try again to change something it turns again daccapo.

if I model a new part starting from your sketch (copy and paste) the error gives it to me immediately and I solve only suspending and reactivating that missing fold. . It remains the fact that with subsequent modifications to the sketch you will hang again and I have to remake all the correction procedure.

Okay, I'm at sp 0.0, but it's not a justification since it's an old feature that always worked very well. to you does not mai Do you?
What's wrong with you?

that done by me before the corrections:View attachment 22047 how do you open it/see?

and related pictures:View attachment 22048View attachment 22049Hello
marco

to me your file doesn't make a mistake.

 

[Mike1967]

...swx & "logical"?? ?
...make the flange at 90° instead of 45° and... no mistake... ?
Now I try again at 45° and tomorrow I try to re-ri-do the section on the pc in the office, maybe I also unload the sp4 ... indeed I see that it is "sp4 ev"?? ? then no, thank you, I wait for the sp4.0

If we want to make it difficult to say that at least I'm a little busy...
how can you do such an aletta if you don't leave the space for laser cutting
or what do you want?
You've never worked the plates. - Really?
ask for a lactoniere or folder quasiase and ask him if it is true that "snatch air dies" !!! they know what I'm talking about, but maybe you escape... precisely because the plates see them on a monitor or not on the beam or the laser cutting bench.. .
I see you haven't read my speeches well: I talked about sp4, not sp4 ev.... or is it wrong??
i ev install them at home to see the improvements and in case I notice that
the bug such of such is still present the problem to the assistance... Perhaps
You could help in this way instead of taking it with
this wonderful program cad.


returning to your pz that at 90° does not present the problem... It is only because with that corner the "stirata" area is not adjacent to the edges of the sheet.
with smaller angles instead the curve is still within the thickness of the sheet.. I hope I understand. . .
No hard feelings... I don't defend swx, but I don't like them either.
lamentel easily and logically surmountable.
:smile:

 

[reggio]

... 2011 x64 sp3.0. . .

correction: at home 2011 x32 sp3.0 and only after 1000 updates
in office 2011 x64 sp3.0 and zero problems.

fold:
that it is logical for a thiefist: Okay.
that it is logical x swx let you make folds of more than 78° but not lower: no (to reach 90° the sheet will have to pass for 45° and for the 78° ... logical... or not? )
that it is logical that swx in this case do not propose anything to you: I'm not... (I'm told that if you think otherwise...).

sp4 / sp4ev: my bread task gave me as present the s4 ev, only entering the site swx I see that from 17/06/11 is also downloadable the sp.4 (that I am downloading) :smile:

... non difendo a sword drawn

;p

 

[eboss]

hi reggio seems strange to me, too, to give you a mistake in the development of that profile.
If you want to post your file, maybe I try to see if it's okay.
I have the version 2011 x64 sp. 2.0 I practically used very little the 0.0 but given we work 90% with sheet I would have noticed that it gave problems on a piece like that.
Let me know if you solved it.

 

[reggio]

I think it's weird.
If you want to post your file maybe I try...
I have the version 2011 x64 sp. 2.0 ...
Let me know if you solved it.

hello and thanks x the interest,
the file you found Here, but it is not a matter of "my file", in fact it seems that to those who gave error used x32, while those who had no problems the x64...

 

[sampom]

... in fact. me with xp 32.

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[Mike1967]

correction: at home 2011 x32 sp3.0 and only after 1000 updates
in office 2011 x64 sp3.0 and zero problems.

fold:
that it is logical for a thiefist: Okay.
that it is logical x swx let you make folds of more than 78° but not lower: no (to reach 90° the sheet will have to pass for 45° and for the 78° ... logical... or not? )
that it is logical that swx in this case do not propose anything to you: I'm not... (I'm told that if you think otherwise...).

sp4 / sp4ev: my bread task gave me as present the s4 ev, only entering the site swx I see that from 17/06/11 is also downloadable the sp.4 (that I am downloading) :smile:

;

I took that tape... I liked a mess of the vomero accident and the fight san gennaro vs sant' ambrogio... is vverooo.... :biggrin:

returning to us, yes, it is true, the sp came out Saturday, as I worked I noticed. . .
about whether, I know him little, great scheth (we have a 2d that has the same schetch in fact it is called smartsketch...) but if you think it is better because you do not pass to that?
I am convinced that pcs do nothing on their own, our handle luckily serves again.. .
the field of the sheets is ostic for those who have never seen / tried to work directly the sheet of sheet, it is a "live" matter that if you do not have the proper experience you care.
For example, have you ever wondered what sequence the bending machine performs?
You know if the sequence is wrong, it's all over?
unfortunately what is missing 99% of designers/projectists is the practice
in the workshop.
in Switzerland, where I work, designers must take a period in the workshop
and I find it a great approach to future design.

... in fact. me with xp 32.

greetings
Marco: :

tried on a ws of the 32-bit xp and solidworks 2011 sp 0... no problem.
I repeat, I would have noticed.

:smile:

 

[SolidUser]

that it is logical x swx let you make folds of more than 78° but not lower: no (to reach 90° the sheet will have to pass for 45° and for the 78° ... logical... or not? )
that it is logical that swx in this case do not propose anything to you: I'm not... (I'm told that if you think otherwise...).

I always start with making clarifications.
all cads using the same modeling kernel and in this parasolid case, have a common base.
parasolid provides a sheet module that is used in sw, as in itself and finally nx.
each company develops, starting from the base, the sheet environment, putting more controls aimed at inexperienced or macro users to avoid more functions.
In this case, I don't think if you act differently.
I don't think that if you don't allow yourself to fold in these situations or warnings.
This is because the cad will never know how the project evolves.
you could make a fold without air and then do an exhaust after the fold, or edit the sketch so that this 'air' can be born.
solidworks checks on the flattened.

the same example applies to those who make molds.
There's no cad that won't allow you to make subsquadri.

cad performs process controls at the end and not during.
do not confuse warnings with errors.

 

[re_solidworks]

I quote you for sympathy.... :smile:

@reggio, can you post the file I try to open it with my pc?
Thank you...:finger:

ps: I find that the 2011 version is very stable and performing, Monday I will update
the various clients at sp 4, I have already created the administrative image Saturday.
a bug I had found in the sheets was fixed in sp 3 ( error in factor k, while changing it did not update all folds with the function "sheet converts").
I had discussed it in another post and also soliduser had found the bug.
For the rest.... never more trouble... apart from multibody sheets I only create in cases
"disperated" and cases where the number of components is easily manageable.
Everything's okay.

Hi, mike.

I used multibody plates to make some record time hoppers and found them in place. What's the matter with you?

 

[re_solidworks]

correction: at home 2011 x32 sp3.0 and only after 1000 updates
in office 2011 x64 sp3.0 and zero problems.

fold:
that it is logical for a thiefist: Okay.
that it is logical x swx let you make folds of more than 78° but not lower: no (to reach 90° the sheet will have to pass for 45° and for the 78° ... logical... or not? )
that it is logical that swx in this case do not propose anything to you: I'm not... (I'm told that if you think otherwise...).

sp4 / sp4ev: my bread task gave me as present the s4 ev, only entering the site swx I see that from 17/06/11 is also downloadable the sp.4 (that I am downloading) :smile:

;

Hello, Reggio,

This time we're all on you, huh?

I checked your sheet (the second) and as mike says it was missing something. First of all you have to leave a minimum of side air, otherwise it must be carried out of hand and fold with a special mold.
it was enough to press "change the flange profile" and shorten the outer edges by 1 mm.
often and willingly, especially with more complex sheets, swx is not able to create the necessary fold drains and it is necessary a small manual intervention, but it is little stuff and + or - all cads behave in the same way.
sheet metals are a world a little apart in the cad and to manage them you need user experience to understand their feasibility and to understand in advance whether or not the error reports are sensible.

 

[Mike1967]

Hi, mike.

I used multibody plates to make some record time hoppers and found them in place. What's the matter with you?

try to manage 15-20 positions in multibody... Maybe they look like each other. . .
and perhaps in course of work some pieces you have to split them in several parts because maybe the development exceeds the sheet format... etc.
I find that, apart from frequent bugs when "separate" sheeted, the anagraph
is absent.
try to put on the table and after some time (but not much) do some
changes, which he added a team, a plate, a pipe... and open the design... many views will have lost the body they contained and whether it is
of plates often the view developed went to baldness. . .
no, the multi-lamiere is out in our company, we have already wrong, in turn,
several times.
Fortunately, most of the vote we managed to fix a fictitious configuration that developed the body on the drawing sheet.
for a month I insisted on using the multi, I had to give up. . despite
the enthusiasm that aroused me this new feature. sin.:frown:

ps: I see if I find a file (I have really few in multi) and the place.

 

[reggio]

Hello, Reggio,
This time we're all on you, huh?

:smile: pant pant .. I can't fight at all, so I summarize with this cheerful tutorial:
develop a sheet with more than 4 folds with swx.1) acquires swx (better the version "super enterprise xxl 2011 subuteo")
2) Do all courses that put your dealer back
3) buy a decent workstation (or at the ksp a cape canaveral store, or a 32-bit xp ws)
4) five-year internship in Ticino workshop
5) Preventive verification of the register
6) preventive formatting and reinstallation of swx "super enterprise xxl 2011 subuteo"
7) go to the temple of zeus to the cloth for the breadcrumbs of swx
8) if possible prefer "basic flue" + tabs, if it is not possible to try to track the profile of the sheet, but first update to the next sp. . .

ps: in case of zero-thick cuts, if without high-locate knowledge, it was useless to think "it was to press "change the flange profile" and to shorten the outer edges by 1 mm." you will be answered that "the sketch is valid" (sometimes it will add dazzling pernacchie...) and you will stay at the starting point, so much so it is worth immediately applying n°2 hand brushes and raise a glory anthem to the swx programmers (with particular praise to those of the swx x32 room).
ps2: confuse warnings with errors, and above all try to never have any.

:

In fact, for the development of the loot, I went on with x64 and at home (x32) I try to trick myself* of the error still unresolved, for the fold to 45° I applied 2 hand slits.

*so I will probably be redeemed by solouser for having "launched" the rock and left the unresolved argument... but alas must proceed with the project.. .

apart from frequent bugs ... registry is absent.
lost the body... bald. . .
I had to give up. . sin.:frown:

...after the recent swx apology with "extracted sword" with triple praise, double commendation and glorification you had not officially lost the right to complain? ;

I hope I have "satisfied" all, good cad to all
ot: the "must" for me is azz holidays: unsurpassed

 

[Mike1967]

:smile: pant pant .. I can't fight at all, so I summarize with this cheerful tutorial:
develop a sheet with more than 4 folds with swx.1) acquires swx (better the version "super enterprise xxl 2011 subuteo")
2) Do all courses that put your dealer back
3) buy a decent workstation (or at the ksp a cape canaveral store, or a 32-bit xp ws)
4) five-year internship in Ticino workshop
5) Preventive verification of the register
6) preventive formatting and reinstallation of swx "super enterprise xxl 2011 subuteo"
7) go to the temple of zeus to the cloth for the breadcrumbs of swx
8) if possible prefer "basic flue" + tabs, if it is not possible to try to track the profile of the sheet, but first update to the next sp. . .

ps: in case of zero-thick cuts, if without high-locate knowledge, it was useless to think "it was to press "change the flange profile" and to shorten the outer edges by 1 mm." you will be answered that "the sketch is valid" (sometimes it will add dazzling pernacchie...) and you will stay at the starting point, so much so it is worth immediately applying n°2 hand brushes and raise a glory anthem to the swx programmers (with particular praise to those of the swx x32 room).
ps2: confuse warnings with errors, and above all try to never have any.

:

In fact, for the development of the loot, I went on with x64 and at home (x32) I try to trick myself* of the error still unresolved, for the fold to 45° I applied 2 hand slits.

*so I will probably be redeemed by solouser for having "launched" the rock and left the unresolved argument... but alas must proceed with the project.. .


...after the recent swx apology with "extracted sword" with triple praise, double commendation and glorification you had not officially lost the right to complain? ;

I hope I have "satisfied" all, good cad to all
ot: the "must" for me is azz holidays: unsurpassed

you made me die... nice post!!! :biggrin:

about the "spada treat", if you go to reread all my interventions
regarding the sheet metal multibody, you will always find the same line: I'm not
reliable, I already say it from the 2010 version installed by me in 2009...
What do I have to do more?

Hi.

 

[Mike1967]

for completeness:
remember when you asked me, through pm, how I justified the request for discount
to the solidworks dealer?? ?
check between your pm, maybe you escaped or forgot that I always said that multibody plates are unreliable...

 

[re_solidworks]

:smile: pant pant .. I can't fight at all, so I summarize with this cheerful tutorial:
develop a sheet with more than 4 folds with swx.1) acquires swx (better the version "super enterprise xxl 2011 subuteo")
2) Do all courses that put your dealer back
3) buy a decent workstation (or at the ksp a cape canaveral store, or a 32-bit xp ws)
4) five-year internship in Ticino workshop
5) Preventive verification of the register
6) preventive formatting and reinstallation of swx "super enterprise xxl 2011 subuteo"
7) go to the temple of zeus to the cloth for the breadcrumbs of swx
8) if possible prefer "basic flue" + tabs, if it is not possible to try to track the profile of the sheet, but first update to the next sp. . .

ps: in case of zero-thick cuts, if without high-locate knowledge, it was useless to think "it was to press "change the flange profile" and to shorten the outer edges by 1 mm." you will be answered that "the sketch is valid" (sometimes it will add dazzling pernacchie...) and you will stay at the starting point, so much so it is worth immediately applying n°2 hand brushes and raise a glory anthem to the swx programmers (with particular praise to those of the swx x32 room).
ps2: confuse warnings with errors, and above all try to never have any.

:

In fact, for the development of the loot, I went on with x64 and at home (x32) I try to trick myself* of the error still unresolved, for the fold to 45° I applied 2 hand slits.

*so I will probably be redeemed by solouser for having "launched" the rock and left the unresolved argument... but alas must proceed with the project.. .


...after the recent swx apology with "extracted sword" with triple praise, double commendation and glorification you had not officially lost the right to complain? ;

I hope I have "satisfied" all, good cad to all
ot: the "must" for me is azz holidays: unsurpassed

hi reggio, no I'm here to say that he never has bachi or that it's all simple. the problem is that "it's a common bad." If you try more cads you'll notice that you're on the same wave line.
answering your points:
1- the basic version is enough and advanced to design, if you make video often the premium is however more accurate.
2- The courses serve if you do it is hard and not always, even by official routes, you have the luck to find prepared people. often a side-by-side with people of experience can help.
3- the workstation should not be spatial, must have certified components. I used for a while and I still have home a pc assembled by me with less than 1000 euros that goes well (with vga picture fx 1700).
4- If you know how to make sheet music helps you understand how to do it, it's not a matter of "some cad".
5-????
6- never formatted, I limit myself to using the workstation for only fine cad and office.
7-
8- in case of "problems" you always try to check if you use the latest version, I think a starting base. an example: I have a problem with the workstation, but before I intervene they made me do tape tests and when they intervene they start from the less expensive interventions, I would say it is normal. with swx before adding a feature you control the contour.

 

[zippovito]

hi reggio I tried to open the file and it gives me no mistake.
use sw 2011 sp.4 win 32
I tried to change the flange inclination from 20° to 80 degrees and no error.
If I can help you ask.
Greetings to all.

 

[reggio]

hi reggio I tried to open the file and it gives me no mistake.
use sw 2011 sp.4 win 32
I tried to change the flange inclination from 20° to 80 degrees and no error.
If I can help you ask.
Greetings to all.

hi, we could almost say that the problem is detectable only on x32 and until sp3.... As soon as I have 1 moment I unload the sp4 x32 and try to update, if I solve myself, I would say that it can be confirmed.