inventor 2012

[re_solidworks]

the passage is free but, apparently, the sub will cost a little more (it speaks 2-300 €)...



the fact is that until 2011, in the autodesk site, the basic version of inventor was indicated as "inventor suite"... now it is simply referred to as "inventor" or "inventor professional" and never mentions autocad mechanical.
boh... vabo, so much to me it is better to pass to the new ultimate, so I save the sub of 3ds max.
If I happen to resent the commercial I will try to clarify better.

no need, 3dsmax is already included in the premium that you will receive in update to inventor.

 

[ReFazzi]

Hello everyone, it's a few months that I don't connect anymore.
I downloaded the new 2012, then today I received the communication that the subscription is running out of me and that I should pay € 1250.00 for 2 licenses. . .
I am wondering if a new graphics of mini tool boxes can bring me productive advantages in a year for 2500,00€
What do you think
probably productivity will remain the same but this year I think I have 2500€ in less expenditure.
Greetings to everyone.

 

[re_solidworks]

Hello everyone, it's a few months that I don't connect anymore.
I downloaded the new 2012, then today I received the communication that the subscription is running out of me and that I should pay € 1250.00 for 2 licenses. . .
I am wondering if a new graphics of mini tool boxes can bring me productive advantages in a year for 2500,00€
What do you think
probably productivity will remain the same but this year I think I have 2500€ in less expenditure.
Greetings to everyone.

I'd think about it. First of all the autodesk policy is not convenient if you stop, unless last minute promotions. In essence, if you want to return, you have to pay the full amount of two years, after 3 years you will no longer update your licenses but you will buy new ones (always without promotions).
I think this year is good because they give you a lot of stuff, for example you will have 3dsmax design for free.
Moreover, for example, they have improved the use of multicore cpus and the regeneration of the views at the table is much faster than 2011. If you make "heavy" boards this saves you a lot of time.

 

[Tarkus]

I'd think about it. First of all the autodesk policy is not convenient if you stop, unless last minute promotions. In essence, if you want to return, you have to pay the full amount of two years, after 3 years you will no longer update your licenses but you will buy new ones (always without promotions).
I think this year is good because they give you a lot of stuff, for example you will have to 3dsmax design for free.
Moreover, for example, they have improved the use of multicore cpus and the regeneration of the views at the table is much faster than 2011. If you make "heavy" boards this saves you a lot of time.

is one of the few reasons that made me renew.
in fact to this round, for me, they did not sweat in going forward, on the other hand they gave us some content in the fact of new software. .
As for the multicore:beautiful for those who have a very recent pc with just processor, but the others, and I think they are the majority, who make it possible to exploit the multicore?
I just hope someone from autodesk italia read us and can report to the mother house....

 

[GiGa]

no need, 3dsmax is already included in the premium that you will receive in update to inventor.

I didn't understand the "no need". ..biggrin:
Anyway... I have 3ds max for several years and I have made the upgrade to inventor pro ( fortunately discounted) a few weeks ago (for updating to the ultimate, although now a little 'falls me because it would be enough to upgrade to routed, which cost less than the complete pro). .
the upgrade to the ultimate will allow me to close with the subs of 3ds max and, despite the increase of the cost of the sub for the ultimate, I should still save a little.. .
Of course a little I'm sorry to "let me die" so a license of 3ds max... if I think about how much it cost me in these years (complete more for passion than to earn) while now "give it" in the potato bags... We hope there is an increase in demand for jobs in max.

 

[GiGa]

As for the multicore:beautiful for those who have a very recent pc with just processor, but the others, and I think they are the majority, who make it possible to exploit the multicore?
I just hope someone from autodesk italia read us and can report to the mother house....

Well, come on. multicores have been out for a long time (at least dual)... for several years to have a singlecore cpu, you have to look for it on purpose.. .
I think it's hard to find a single-core cpu... I don't think you're working with 2012. .

that then autodesk can "learn" a lot by reading here, I agree very well.. .

 

[ReFazzi]

I made a personal consideration, I do not use 3dsmax, and design automation machines and then build them internally to my structure.
when making an investment you value the cost, the advantage that this investment can give and in what time the investment is amortized.
in my case in recent years of subscription to subscriptions the benefits were minimal.

 

[Tarkus]

Well, come on. multicores have been out for a long time (at least dual)... for several years to have a singlecore cpu, you have to look for it on purpose.. .
I think it's hard to find a single-core cpu... I don't think you're working with 2012. .

that then autodesk can "learn" a lot by reading here, I agree very well.. .

Well, yeah, I'm kind of shaking my hand, even I have a quad-core. .
What I'd like to say anyway is that the fact that inv goes on multicores, it would seem to me, in 2011, something obvious, not something to wave as big news....
Maybe they're going out, because they don't have much more to flaunt...

 

[Stiky]

I downloaded from the sub site version 64bit, but when I launch the executable to disappear it gives me a bad packettization error, does it happen to someone else?

 

[Hole]

so confirm that there are no macroscopic novelties.

 

[Catafratto]

so confirm that there are no macroscopic novelties.

Oh, my God, it depends on what you do... right these days I am working on the table of a plant using levels of detail and every diavoleria comes to mind to streamline everything... if you halve the time of putting in the table _ is_ a big news, for me. But I still have to find the courage (and time) to install 2012 and try!

 

[re_solidworks]

Oh, my God, it depends on what you do... right these days I am working on the table of a plant using levels of detail and every diavoleria comes to mind to streamline everything... if you halve the time of putting in the table _ is_ a big news, for me. But I still have to find the courage (and time) to install 2012 and try!

I saw the direct comparison inv2011 and inv2012 on the same table and the difference is remarkable, I would say at least 1 to 5!
but none of you went to the presentation of your dealer? Did I just go as an infiltrate?

 

[re_solidworks]

I didn't understand the "no need". ..biggrin:
Anyway... I have 3ds max for several years and I have made the upgrade to inventor pro ( fortunately discounted) a few weeks ago (for updating to the ultimate, although now a little 'falls me because it would be enough to upgrade to routed, which cost less than the complete pro). .
the upgrade to the ultimate will allow me to close with the subs of 3ds max and, despite the increase of the cost of the sub for the ultimate, I should still save a little.. .
Of course a little I'm sorry to "let me die" so a license of 3ds max... if I think about how much it cost me in these years (complete more for passion than to earn) while now "give it" in the potato bags... We hope there is an increase in demand for jobs in max.

What to say, a questionable commercial policy that pays those who can wait for the right time. to me the two inventor's licenses cost little because I waited and bought at the time when "they had" to sell.
This does not pay the faithful and I would like to think about who took 3dstudio a year ago...

I made a personal consideration, I do not use 3dsmax, and design automation machines and then build them internally to my structure.
when making an investment you value the cost, the advantage that this investment can give and in what time the investment is amortized.
in my case in recent years of subscription to subscriptions the benefits were minimal.

your reasoning doesn't make a grit, but if you stay still for 3 years and then you want to upgrade to 2014 you buy back the licenses, this is the trick.
If you stop 2 years and do not make promotion you pay as much as pay every year.
Is it worth stopping? I don't know how much your project environment is "stagno" because then you get a file in 2012 and don't open it...
are considerations to be made for a single case and it is difficult to know what is convenient because we should know in advance the decisions of autodesk for next year.
I said that I saw the demo, but I still don't know inventor to judge the news. Of course, everything I've seen has been in solidworks for several years and I haven't had a great sense of innovation.

I open a bracket: if in 2012 they had not made any news but aimed at stability and lack of bug would be the best money spent of all.

 

[GiGa]

installed the final this morning. . first impressions (from brainstorming, almost) after using mainly autocad and very few other programs of the suite:
installation that takes a lot of time, of course also because of the many programs to install (to me indicated 39 installations, without 3ds max already installed)... convenient the possibility to check/download the latest updates for each program.
I have not installed vault server yet, in any case no error during installation. . .

inventor:
seems actually faster in the opening... but as soon as you load a file, it loads all the modules so there actually does not seem to be a great gain. . .
I do not express myself on the use because I only opened it and loaded a file... but basically unusable (unless you have a mud computer) mode "ray tracing". . .
finally came back to work the antialiasing of the painting... was since 2010 (and only with certain drivers) that no longer worked...

autocad (mechanical):
it seems actually more reactive.. .
beautiful (and finally clear) the new graphics card driver upgrade site dedicated to the suite with clearly indicated which applications for which the driver is certified... Finally autocad recognizes me the picture as certified and antialiasing on the lines does not cause unmanageable slowdowns of 2011.
tips: small addition, but very useful: you can change the name and point of insertion of a block directly at the end of the session of its local modification. .. very comfortable... :finger:

alias design: it is a "programme"... I just opened it and gave the impressions of being quite complex... The leash brought me back to lightwave times... I think you have to do some tutorials and spend some time. .

sketchbook designer: it seems very "intuitive"... almost indispensable the use of the graphic tablet... There's also a study here. . .

mudbox: program for the very powerful 3d sculpting... and fun:tongue: between this and 3ds max, there is to sweat. . .

 

[Peppe]

do you also see the menu texts?

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

I did not have inventor but I drew us back time with version 10 (very long ago). I was wondering: Do the 2010 or 2012 version have to have 1280x1024 resolution mandatory? I have a laptop with 1280x800, can I do something?

Thank you.

 

[MauroM]

I saw the direct comparison inv2011 and inv2012 on the same table and the difference is remarkable, I would say at least 1 to 5!...

I installed 2012 just to test this imaginary multiprocessor table. I really hope to have wrong something because it is such and which at 2011.

 

[re_solidworks]

I installed 2012 just to test this imaginary multiprocessor table. I really hope to have wrong something because it is such and which at 2011.

from what they told me the speed comes from the exploitation of all the available cores, I do not know if it is only those of the cpu or even the gpu in case of nvidia cuda.
each core regenerates a view, therefore with an extreme to 6 core you should have a 6x livestock

 

[Peppe]

I installed 2012 just to test this imaginary multiprocessor table. I really hope to have wrong something because it is such and which at 2011.

as far as I am concerned, I guarantee that it is the only valid thing of the 2012 package:frown::frown:

 

[Christian76]

in effetti anche io non vedo migliorie...
e poi anche se si spunta il caricamento automatico delle vba ci mette una vita lo stesso