The_Matrix
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at the end the theme of class surfaces is a few... and talk about it without bringing examples is not easy.
I have examples, but they are all "owners" and I can't definitely post them.
I have examples, but they are all "owners" and I can't definitely post them.
giovanni.a
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sin, because it is precisely dealing with these issues that the discussion would remain/be interesting and constructive.
The_Matrix
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Oh, you know, young man. . .
we are completely ot. we talked about cad to make conveyor belts and we ended up talking about classes a.
all seasoned with the usual dicklunghismo mio and other assidudu frequenters of the forum.
then, an account is discuss freeform in general and an account is of class a surfaces.
to give you the idea of what the class "modellators" are to (intention as humans that create these surfaces), in front of a cad like nx (they use cas like alias and icem):
"Sorry, but that list of stuff right there what is it?" (is the tree of features... do not have the concept)
So, it's a race apart really.
ROAR
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but it is true that, a few years ago,ptc bought icem to enter ford, which used icem, but then as the ford did not want to use proes, the ptc sold icem?
maxopus
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Yes, ptc acquired icem. was the classic "vampirization". In practice, he worked on the reverse module (rex) the icem functions and then put it back on the market. it was purchased by dassault but failed to integrate it efficiently into the catia, so much so that it continued to sell it as a stand alone solution (programme apart from caia).
therefore the rex module of ptc (integrated in creo), has the same functions of icem surfing and costs less than half (however coast). I've been using it for 9 years, it's really done well.
maxopus
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It is quite simple concepts.
the continuity in curvature is used to prevent the lines of discontinuity that would be created between adjacent surfaces with the only continuity in tangency. for the rest ... suffice that there are no unwanted flex points and the individual surfaces must have the lowest possible degree. an area of grade 7 or 8 or 12 may not be read by a dated cam and it is very difficult to manage in case you have to change it.
maxopus
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for the previous post:
for discontinuity between surfaces I mean discontinuity of reflected light, therefore it is a very evident aesthetic problem with metallescent paints.
for discontinuity between surfaces I mean discontinuity of reflected light, therefore it is a very evident aesthetic problem with metallescent paints.
Lettore espatriato
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for what I saw:
alias "initial" part of style.
icem part "final" .
alias, is used to do what the designer wants. icem to "interpret" with "simple" surfaces what the designer did.
sometimes activities overlap.
How many houses do they use for production?
alias "initial" part of style.
icem part "final" .
alias, is used to do what the designer wants. icem to "interpret" with "simple" surfaces what the designer did.
sometimes activities overlap.
How many houses do they use for production?
Lettore espatriato
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yesterday I thought about you intensely.
a technician was explaining a teamcenter thing to me and pointed out the graphic analogy with proes.
when I tried to explain to him not to "bestemize" and that, at the limit, the display could be nx , I was shot a "yes yes nx-proe "!!!
))))))
a technician was explaining a teamcenter thing to me and pointed out the graphic analogy with proes.
when I tried to explain to him not to "bestemize" and that, at the limit, the display could be nx , I was shot a "yes yes nx-proe "!!!
))))))maxopus
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icem surf: it's just reverse, if you don't have a stl, I think you're doing nothing. You do the same with the rex functions of creo.
what you do with alias do with the isdx functions of creo (modelling from curves 3d). if you have handle you can also make it less, you can model style with the basic form of creo.
class a, it is only a question of experience and from which given parts.
if the starting date are blueprints or classic sketches of the 3 views jobs with isdx functions, if your starting date is a 3d scan jobs with the rex module that allows you to lean on the scan data without using the curves.
there are finally freestyle functions, translated subdivision surface modeling
what you do with alias do with the isdx functions of creo (modelling from curves 3d). if you have handle you can also make it less, you can model style with the basic form of creo.
class a, it is only a question of experience and from which given parts.
if the starting date are blueprints or classic sketches of the 3 views jobs with isdx functions, if your starting date is a 3d scan jobs with the rex module that allows you to lean on the scan data without using the curves.
there are finally freestyle functions, translated subdivision surface modeling
Lettore espatriato
Guest
Yes, in fact, the style centers of the car manufacturers, are full of proes, nx and catia .
Lettore espatriato
Guest
If I'm a v5 user, explain how you compare a cad that you've been using for nine years or more with one you've used for three months ? ah, already the circular series . If I had to buy a new car based on defects, I would still use my mother's young 750 panda. It never breaks.
Lettore espatriato
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both (alias and icem) do both . some things better, others worse. As I told you, it's like they're used in the style centers of car homes.
that other software has certain features can be and that this is enough for anyone else is true. practically all European motorcycle houses use proe . piaggio ktm ( kiska) and triumph .
from thera uses proe, but a body shop of an f1 has nothing to do with a standard body shop.
maxopus
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What do you mean when you talk about a cad I've been using for three months?
If that's been a year and a half.
and I repeat to you... for mechanical modeling there is no comparison. If then we want to say that counts plm and cad is a secondary thing ... we make molds and equipment without geometries, which come better.
cacciatorino
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can we return to topic, or conveyor belts?
if you continue to talk about et similar surfaces I begin to delete the posts, thanks for the collaboration.
if you continue to talk about et similar surfaces I begin to delete the posts, thanks for the collaboration.
maxopus
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ok hunting, forgive my outings, for me you can delete all the off topic.