renewal solidworks subscription

[Onda]

Good morning.

One of the characteristics that has distinct solidworks compared to other programs in the same range is the renewal policy of the subscription.
until today, you could exit the maintenance program and then return by paying a fee of 500 euros per license.
a few days ago, my salesman contacted me saying that starting next year this policy would change, and that solidworks would require for a maintenance return payment of all backward monthly payments. aligning more or less to competing software houses.
I would like to know if you too have given the same information and what you think of this negative change of commercial policy.
I personally don't exploit assistance, but only updates, and I find that updating every two years is more than enough, this policy here is very contrary.
greetings
wave

 

[meccanicamg]

same conditions. once solidworks did the same thing. that I know if you are out of the contract you maintenance and want to return is not true that you pay the months but you pay the cost of the license as new.
the minchita of the 500euro or forfait was done only in a period of the year and not always...or a year you and one no.
Anyway talk to the authorized dealer and certificate and will give you all the explanations, otherwise, if you think you're screwing up contact solidworks italia.

 

[Onda]

I don't think I'm cheating on me, but you know how, better to hear others' opinion. to you the communication of this change of trend did not come so?

 

[Onda]

So no one has placed the question of the new commercial policy on renewals since next year? ?
Perhaps this policy exists only for me?

 

[meccanicamg]

at the end there is the general rule however as always there is some exception due to different factors, promotions, license number etc.

 

[Onda]

I don't understand, which means general rule, or there's a return fee or they ask for all the monthly. or this policy is changing or are teasing me.
It's not like a little one's paying the monthly and a bigger one's return fee.
I have two licenses, and I'm thinking about buying a third. all with epdm. I'm small, but not really to throw away.

 

[re_solidworks]

the reinstallation fee has always been listed, so it was not a policy to apply according to the condition (in the past). Now you have to understand how it will be in the future, at the end of the year expire my (I had made the three-year subscription) and we see. They probably adapted to others' policies. thinks that since 2016 autodesk no longer sells licenses but you can only "read". If you already have the license you can use it and renew it, but the dealer told me that if I stop the subscription I can no longer return without occasional return campaigns. In the end I have to decide whether to always pay or "push" 2 licenses within a few years.
the fact of being able to go out and go back was one of the strengths of solidworks compared to competitors, whatever they need money, but it is so a weapon less on new sales for commercials, as well as a break of boxes for users.
We'll see if it's applied, but if there are rumors, you know, remember how they eliminated the double activation? I think I'm seeing the same policy a bit. . .

 

[Onda]

King, thank you for the exhaustive answer, are you telling me that your var has given you the same information?

to me he made a somewhat strange speech, telling me that there is nothing written, that the sw does not want to turn the news outside r so not from official communications, etc. this is the reason that prompted me to ask your opinion, because seeing a communication on such a fact does another effect.

I had prefixed the idea of renewing a year yes and one no, that is true I pay the return fee, but it is always less than a lot compared to the annual subscription. having the latest version is not imperative from my point of view, since updates often do not go in the desired direction of use.
Now this policy outlines me not little, I feel it as a betrayal as this possibility had been one of the motivations in the choice of software.
Moreover, I change a lot if choosing to renew for a year, or for three years, since, if it is true that the renewal becomes "mandatory" a three-year renewal allows to obtain a greater discount.

In practice, I am trying to understand how this news is founded that I am given in an unusual way from the var and then make a decision about it.
Thank you.

 

[marcof]

They probably adapted to others' policies.

and you will see when in a not too remote future they will force you to hire. they are all of the alì babà... they remind me of some parasites that want to get fat at the expense of the host without doing anything.
If it were for them they would also charge the printing rights of the 2d drawings, but it is better to say it slowly to prevent the more thief of the band taking cue to put into practice also this imaginative gabella.

 

[L3i]

hello wave,
they called me Friday is they made me the same offer, or 500 immediately or from next year the arrears monthly.

 

[teseo]

I confirm, also called to us for the same reason.

Hi.

 

[Max-C]

we have left since 2014. now to update the license, on request if mandatory, they told us that, for changes of their policies in the coming years, it was better to do it even if not obligatory. . .

 

[re_solidworks]

we have left since 2014. now to update the license, on request if mandatory, they told us that, for changes of their policies in the coming years, it was better to do it even if not obligatory. . .

Of course they don't arrest you if you don't. We must see the evolution of this. Also autodesk and ptc have this policy, unless return campaigns or special offers (which are always there).
what is bothering, but really annoying, is that they make this decision at the end of one of the worst versions ever (from the point of view of reliability). I say that first they have to prove they know how to do well and give us an impeccable tool, then they can play up.

 

[marcof]

Of course they don't arrest you if you don't. We must see the evolution of this. Also autodesk and ptc have this policy, unless return campaigns or special offers (which are always there).
what is bothering, but really annoying, is that they make this decision at the end of one of the worst versions ever (from the point of view of reliability). I say that first they have to prove they know how to do well and give us an impeccable tool, then they can play up.

tell us the truth: how many users for whom the novelties of the next version are indispensable? I mean, they can't even work by circumventing the limitations with some stratagems that any hulled user has learned to invent at his own expense, literally.
It is now late because the term is December 31, but I believe that if we had set up a half riot (it is from my point of view) on a planetary level to convince many users not to renew the subscrition perhaps, I say perhaps, someone would have dropped the arms. the means to quickly spread the initiative and to allow it to grow by itself there would have been. Maybe we would have dropped the brags, but trying wouldn't do much harm, being able to return to assistance this year having skipped the past year.
Perhaps I am wrong, but these commercial policies worthy of well organized cartels to break their customers, have been set up because with the sale of new licenses they now do not earn as much as they would like to make up a fee on the possession of the software. "and I pay..." [cit. De Curtis].
but with the loop I pay to have in return software with old trunks plus the added ones; I am still in 2013 and when I return, in a few years if it will be indispensable to work, I will buy a new license and that they hang and their dances of the "time to market".

 

[drake]

tell us the truth: how many users for whom the novelties of the next version are indispensable? I mean, they can't even work by circumventing the limitations with some stratagems that any hulled user has learned to invent at his own expense, literally.
It is now late because the term is December 31, but I believe that if we had set up a half riot (it is from my point of view) on a planetary level to convince many users not to renew the subscrition perhaps, I say perhaps, someone would have dropped the arms. the means to quickly spread the initiative and to allow it to grow by itself there would have been. Maybe we would have dropped the brags, but trying wouldn't do much harm, being able to return to assistance this year having skipped the past year.
Perhaps I am wrong, but these commercial policies worthy of well organized cartels to break their customers, have been set up because with the sale of new licenses they now do not earn as much as they would like to make up a fee on the possession of the software. "and I pay..." [cit. De Curtis].
but with the loop I pay to have in return software with old trunks plus the added ones; I am still in 2013 and when I return, in a few years if it will be indispensable to work, I will buy a new license and that they hang and their dances of the "time to market".

I think like you! in fact now I work with 2012 and I can do everything with that and I think the new versions do not give me in return just a cxxxo! the most shameful thing is the annual cost really excessive and not justified in any way and now become an important % of the turnover of a professional. if we consider all other software becomes really difficult! It is perhaps a valid policy x the Americans but obviously not x us who live in a very different context.
1900 eurines yearly x the professional version, which is sold to you saying that you also have the assistance, but the latter to what will ever serve for an experienced user? I will personally have a dozen calls made at first when I still didn't know the software but now why would I call? x say hello to them!
I decided to upgrade this year, because I also forced to change pcs and after several years, but then I will decline the license and between 5 or 6 years in case I will buy it back. I have to be careful to stop with a version that works and not get to the last update possible, because they may deliberately not be stable. to think badly you are wrong but often you get right.. .

 

[teseo]

I think like you! in fact now I work with 2012 and I can do everything with that and I think the new versions do not give me in return just a cxxxo! the most shameful thing is the annual cost really excessive and not justified in any way and now become an important % of the turnover of a professional. if we consider all other software becomes really difficult! It is perhaps a valid policy x the Americans but obviously not x us who live in a very different context.
1900 eurines yearly x the professional version, which is sold to you saying that you also have the assistance, but the latter to what will ever serve for an experienced user? I will personally have a dozen calls made at first when I still didn't know the software but now why would I call? x say hello to them!
I decided to upgrade this year, because I also forced to change pcs and after several years, but then I will decline the license and between 5 or 6 years in case I will buy it back. I have to be careful to stop with a version that works and not get to the last update possible, because they may deliberately not be stable. to think badly you are wrong but often you get right.. .

actually the latest versions are the worst uhms you want these gentlemen to do it by mail......... .

quoto in toto, the problem of staying with old versions and then you no longer dialogue with anyone as your version cannot read the next ones....it is the worst point...that obviously they will never solve.
I am personally at 2016, why?? ? because 2015 had become unmanageable for me and I was due to despair to go to 2016 pr01!! ! ! ! ! ! !

What to say 2016 for me goes better than 2015 but it is full of bugs....idioti you can still have problems with icons that disappear reappear, descriptions that you do not read because behind the menus! listen to this" do a line, it appears quota automatically, type the number: surprise you can not click on the box!!!" another on the quota position the quota with the automatic positioner if the pointer is in correspondence of a line or the quota line does not place the quota you have to move the mouse and click..... the piping does not go and crashes continuously....
but at least I don't plant every two for three like 2015

if it seems serious to present such a cersion

ps I shaved the car before installing it.....no I say because according to some you have to shave the car and everything comes back to place a dry fig

Bye-bye

Hi.

 

[cacciatorino]

actually the latest versions are the worst uhms you want these gentlemen to do it by mail......... .

If I were the vw I would release a service pack "golf 2008.1" that puts in place the trouble of the control unit, clearly only for customers with subscription! :wink:

 

[marcof]

If I were the vw I would release a service pack "golf 2008.1" that puts in place the trouble of the control unit, clearly only for customers with subscription! :wink:

and those not in subscriptions the car will stop permanently. . if those of the cars read this and other threads like this would come, they too, fantastic ideas to camp without making a caxxo of useful from mane to evening:smile:

 

[luca.cam]

Good evening to all,
I was also contacted for the renewal of maintenance and in recent days I went to discuss the thing with the seller because it seemed absurd.. .
...the maintenance contract is never given, but it could also be accepted if the program had no trunks or fouls (always charged then to the "unfair use by the operator"!?!)! All the problems I read in the forums seem repetitive and do not seem to me to be bound by the pc, the object in working or other.. .
if you work as a third-party contractor, the program is indispensable according to the demand of the market, but "to take advantage" imposing to your own pleasure that to return to maintenance is canceled the forfeit of €500, replacing it instead with the addition of the payment from the next year of all the monthly unpaid until the renewal, makes me alter and not little (and I am using an euphemism to not be vulgar). is not this a hegemony!?

proposed to sw: the program I appreciate it, but if you put more "factable" prices I think everyone would be likely to keep in service, thus increasing your gain! ! ! !

 

[cacciatorino]

He also called me the ex-seller, suggesting that I update until the old rules are in place, and then abandon them. the thing that stops me is the price of the upgrade, of 1700 euros plus the fine of 500 for standard solidworks, which seems really exaggerated.