salary designer mechanic rd

[ilcama22]

Bye to all,
I would like to know what should be a correct and honest salary for a mechanical designer (industrial expert spec. mechanics) with 5 years experience in design of which 2 years in r&d department in medium-large company (1000 employees).
with advanced knowledge of n°2 famous software cad 3d, plm and various pdm, ansys wb thermal and structural analysis,
autonomous and punctual in project delivery.
North Italy area

Now I'm going to change my job and I'd like some advice on what pay
Thank you in advance for your advice

 

[meccanicamg]

if you are in leg 2000/2300 €/ net month. if you understand in briance....1700/2000 €/month but fatigued. if you are in companies of 50 employees even something less. realize that a young designer takes 1500/1700 €/month net after about ten years. If you work in oil sectors you can already ask for something high.

 

[PierArg]

I also agree with the figures of mechanicsmg

 

[ilcama22]

if you are in leg 2000/2300 €/ net month. if you understand in briance....1700/2000 €/month but fatigued. if you are in companies of 50 employees even something less. realize that a young designer takes 1500/1700 €/month net after about ten years. If you work in oil sectors you can already ask for something high.

So with 5 years experience if I look for a new job could be a demand in line with the market 1700-1800 net?

 

[PierArg]

Yes, they seem honest.

 

[meccanicamg]

if you don't want to give them you can agree a net of 200€ less to part that pay you lunch....you know the benefits so they don't have cost for the company. the same goes for fake bonuses or real wounds and the like. are net money that the company gives to the worker for expenses incurred or not and are not taxed.

 

[ilcama22]

if you don't want to give them you can agree a net of 200€ less to part that pay you lunch....you know the benefits so they don't have cost for the company. the same goes for fake bonuses or real wounds and the like. are net money that the company gives to the worker for expenses incurred or not and are not taxed.

I have received some proposals, it seems to me that over 30-32k of ral is how to climb the everest with the slippers. . .

 

[meccanicamg]

Well that is the starting point for a new sector, a company that doesn't trust and that just wants to exploit. then there are companies that if you want to adjust your salary better.

 

[New Rider]

Well that is the starting point for a new sector, a company that doesn't trust and that just wants to exploit. then there are companies that if you want to adjust your salary better.

mechanical good morningmg, you're talking about companies that ''if you want'', how do you recognize them? It seems that all companies, these days, play on the '' crisis' factor.

 

[ilcama22]

I see paid adequately those who have some seniority of course, on young people exploit the crisis and the fact that all the work the other works are underpaid. at equal skills and value created for the company I see salaries that are under the average and salaries that are also twice the average.

 

[genesis1975]

It will be, but I see that by now the workers take salaries that a graduate designer does not take with all respect but study up to 27 years and then take a salary even less than a worker seems to me a huge injustice

 

[genesis1975]

in my company there are workers who are over 2000€...

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

We must always put the figures on the same level of work experience
a worker who knows how to work on 3/4 different machines, knows how to properly weld with the various methods, knows the best procedures to perform certain jobs while at the same experience a graduate designer barely knows the norms of the design, does not know how to get roughness, takes 1 day to badly quote a drawing from 2 hours, it is correct that the first has a higher salary

 

[ceschi1959]

and then complain that they lack graduates in technical-scientific subjects. . .
who makes me do it to study 5 and up to 8 years (doctorate) extra, with the result that: in these years I have not earned I spent a lot of money, for faculty outside home you go quietly on 15 k€/year, then take, If everything is okay, 200€ more per month of a worker?

 

[Stefano_GS]

excuse but in those 5/8 years a worker has matured a specific experience that you have not yet.
the comparison if we want to do it well let's do it:
- Comparative input salary at entrance salary
- salary after x years of experience for both
- overall salary in the career span

without considering that you in principle will sit in an office (with all the positive and negative implications) while he does not

 

[cacciatorino]

who makes me do it to study 5 and up to 8 years (doctorate) extra, with the result that: in these years I have not earned I spent a lot of money, for faculty outside home you go quietly on 15 k€/year, then take, If everything is okay, 200€ more per month of a worker?

Sorry, but you're comparing an entrance strip with a person with experience. if you go to see the entrance salaries and after five years for both categories probably things will be unbalanced backwards.
Then we go to see what happens at the end of the career: the worker will retire with five hernias and a pulmonary disease, the graduate with the sailboat parked at the marina:d

 

[ceschi1959]

Sorry, but you're comparing an entrance strip with a person with experience. if you go to see the entrance salaries and after five years for both categories probably things will be unbalanced backwards.
Then we go to see what happens at the end of the career: the worker will retire with five hernias and a pulmonary disease, the graduate with the sailboat parked at the marina:d

so you graduate and entrepreneur will have two boats at the marina. . ?

 

[cacciatorino]

so you graduate and entrepreneur will have two boats at the marina. . ?

No, those are employee privileges. I am now delighted to do the tricks with my fiat jtd euro 3. :

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

but if the graduate does not know how to give good his job must be paid more than one worker with the third media, who knows how to give it, only in the right of the title of study? does not exist?

 

[genesis1975]

We must always put the figures on the same level of work experience
a worker who knows how to work on 3/4 different machines, knows how to properly weld with the various methods, knows the best procedures to perform certain jobs while at the same experience a graduate designer barely knows the norms of the design, does not know how to get roughness, takes 1 day to badly quote a drawing from 2 hours, it is correct that the first has a higher salary

as you wrote it, it's right that the "worker" take more, but it's not the situation of my company, where there are no cnc machine tools or work centers, where a worker or shoots continuous rivets or at the maximum disassembly and reassembles the pieces from the automatic welding mask... and there are people already at the fourth or fifth level... as far as a non-know drawing value, it's serious . .