valeria_emme
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I don't understand. I did the sketch. a rectangle, a circle and two tangent lines... I did three extrusions, then the cuts, and eventually I quoted... How do I quote the sketch if the depth is missing?
Mike1967
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is the first time I use this program... I go a little bit intuition and try to follow your advice... I don't dare imagine when I go on solidcast
per capirci...
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Mike1967
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the "depth" is "guided" by the function and defines itself.
even that size is inserted on the drawing sheet always with
the import instrument quotas.
valeria_emme
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Okay, so I'll try again. seeam if I can do it
sampom
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oh holy numi!:biggrin:
in the sketch you have sketched. being the sketch a 2d obviously you will quota on the plane; the depth will give you the extrusion function.
sketches must be completely defined, that is, listed, with entities related to each other and fixed to the origin.. at that point all the sketch entities will be black and at the bottom right in the status bar the word appears totally defined.
if you have doubts and you no longer know how to define it, do right clik and choose definition total sketch, come on in the property manager and the program will do everything for you.. but it is better to take familiarity and do it yourself to have more control over what you are doing.
greetings
Marco:smile:
valeria_emme
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I did a little test. Now I understand... I'll start again tomorrow. It doesn't seem impossible. but at the moment my neurons are not 100%
valeria_emme
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I have done everything, quoted the sketches and now the odds are black (they stay in blue those relative to the extrusion)... I imported the quotas on the table (here are all blue)... I put all the concentric relationships... there's only one quota... the part of attack of the trapeze on the base should have a quota of 72, but instead I vien out a 73... ergo... I eliminated the quota... And cross my fingers, I hope it's okay.
I attach everything, tell me what you think
marcof
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you come 73 (which then if you increase the decimals you will see that it is 73.0005423) because in his sketch you have listed the distance of the extremes of the two tangent lines to the cilindor regarding its center. Moreover they have lengths of one of 27,9336089 and the other of 27,91621448
that I know so much about automatic quotation. delete those two quotas and refrain one for the width of the base to 72 then you have to add uan line of construction between the center of the circumference and the half-way of the base line. impose that vertical line and you will see that the sketch returns completely bound and the sketch will always be symmetrical compared to the average floor.when size the sketch premium you have to put the odds you want (that 72...) adding the missing relationships.
marcof
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Other things:
1)in the first sketch of the base do not quota the width with two quotas from 42. delete them, bind the average point of the horizontal segment with the sketch gold and then quote it in whole to 84. will always be symmetrical and you will have to change one share.
2) the hole4, the one on the base, as I assume that it must always be in the center regarding the side of 84, do not quote it to 42 on a board, otherwise if you change the quota of 84 for some reason then the hole remains decentralized. draws a line of construction from the center of the circle that ends perpendicular and on the halfway of the side of 84. if you change the width to the base that hole will always be centered on the middle floor. you have to exploit the peculiarities of being able to maintain constraints and relationships that the cad offers you.
3)the cut for those heels you have to do it with a simple rectangle attached to the edge and falling 6 mm, not with a 12-quoted rectangle outside the piece.
4) the other cut do not repeat it again, make a mirror of the first regarding the right plane in 10 seconds net. This, for example, is one of the many reasons why it is advisable to build, as you have done, the components by placing the sketc in a symmetrical way as to the main planes. symmetry plans can also build them after and when needed you do, but in this case you need to be able to take advantage of the main ones.
valeria_emme
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What is "golden"? ?
valeria_emme
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I actually left it so because otherwise I couldn't do it "totally defined" as I was advised to do... by the way... Two odds of 42 I can make her black... a quota from 84 I remain blue...
even here, same problem... Actually, the odds I'm interested in are the width of the groove 25, and the distance from the edge 50, in addition to its centrality... I solved the problem by making the two axes of the hole and making the intersection of these coincide with the center of the hole itself
I didn't know there was such a function. comfortable:redface:
sampom
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<<origine>. .What is "golden"? ?
Forgive him,
you know marcof begins to have some arthritis and fingers on the keyboard no longer go where he wants..:tongue::biggrin:
greetings
Marco:smile:
marcof
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What is "golden"? ?
:hahahah:
no, no arthritis, I forgot to put on my teether and I was eating my usual semolina so I wanted to make the idea of how it is pronounced "origin" in those conditions. . .
FELIX
Guest
hi valeria, you tried to quote taking as reference the hole plan, possibly create it and then quote it.
Hi.
Hi.
marcof
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I actually left it so because otherwise I couldn't do it "totally defined" as I was advised to do... by the way... Two odds of 42 I can make her black... a quota from 84 I remain blue..."scancella" those two 42 odds and even the 15 you took from the origin. erases that bond of "horizontal" between a summit of the rectangle and the origin. now share width and height by clicking on the respective segments. You'll see that rectangle can take him to the screen.
now you must bind the average point of the base line toorigin (I put the toothbrush back, eh... :smileof the sketch. click the segment, press ctrl, click the origin with the right, in the drop-down menu that opens click on the "create intermediate point" bond. done.
Hi.
p.s. I didn't understand why in your model when I change sketches of a feature in the middle of the tree I also disappear the previous ones that I should continue to see and I see only the sketch in edit
valeria_emme
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I didn't understand why in your model when I edit sketches of a feature in the middle of the tree I also disappear the previous ones that I should continue to see and see only the sketch in edit
it doesn't happen to me... can it depend on the fact that I use sw2008? ? ?Anyway, I made all the recommended changes. . :biggrin: I really didn't think I could. . .
now I have only a few doubts
1)Why do some odds have a blue point on both sides, and others only on one side? I'd rather these guys had it on both of us, or they didn't have it. to have a more symmetrical share (if you can)
2) Why can't I bind the groove to the length of the segment? I'd like to have a quota 25 and that his axis was at a space 50 from the edge, like the center of the hole. the hole must be central and have a distance 50 from the board in axis with the average points of the two grooves. . (a 50 and a 25... not 62,50 and 37,50... that they are correct, but they are not what I need)
3) why do I remain in blue? Shouldn't they be black? ? ?
Mike1967
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I think you're a little confused. .
Anyway, I made all the recommended changes. . :biggrin: I really didn't think I could. . .
now I have only a few doubts
1)Why do some odds have a blue point on both sides, and others only on one side? I'd rather these guys had it on both of us, or they didn't have it. to have a more symmetrical share (if you can)
2) Why can't I bind the groove to the length of the segment? I'd like to have a quota 25 and that his axis was at a space 50 from the edge, like the center of the hole. the hole must be central and have a distance 50 from the board in axis with the average points of the two grooves. . (a 50 and a 25... not 62,50 and 37,50... that they are correct, but they are not what I need)
3) why do I remain in blue? Shouldn't they be black? ? ?
(1)
the blue point, as you call it, is present on the function odds
as you obviously have the instant3d option activated (see help).
you have only one share with two points,the 84 share of sketch1 That's it.
because the sketch is symmetrical.
the sketch1 is subdefined: add the horizontal relation to the line that intersects the origin.
(2)
as you can expect to put three odds for those measures, delete one (or make it guided) and you will see that you can enter the 25.
(3)
the function quotas do not center anything with the quotas to define the sketch.
sketch3 underdefinite, select the two vertices and give the report
horizontality you will see that the sketch becomes black and
I strongly recommend you to perform the tutorials.
sampom
Guest
no, the function odds remain blue (by default, you can change color from the options of the document but better leave them always different from the sketch ones, to recognize them at a glance).
for the rest I should check your file.. I'm sorry now.
But everything should be positioned as and where you say, if it does not, there will be errors/imprecisions.
greetings
Mar
marcof
Guest
in part they answered you, but I add some things:
1)The axes you created to draw the foro7 sketch are entirely useless. If you need construction geometry in the hole 7 sketch, you can do straight lines directly by selecting the "halfery line" command or drawing what you need, selecting and converting it into construction geometry (from the context menu or putting the flag from the property manager on the left.
2) for the quotation of the asola: when I tell you do it by putting the measures you need then drawings first the rectangle, then quoting the long side to 25, the short one to 6 and if you need the half-car 50 from the base do a point on the half-carry side of the 25 and quoti the one to 50 reported to the base. I mean, the odds you have to put them where you want, not where he wants: I have the impression that you make the automatic definition of the sketch... Am I wrong?
Of course, if you already have three odds that completely define the sketch, you can not add others and pretend that they control the geometry, the extra ones will come in grey because they are "guided" quotas from the surrounding geometry.
3) I would have done first the hole, quoted to 50 mm from the base and in axis with the half-works (design us a construction line from the center to the half-way of the base line) and after the asola aligning the half-works (with another line of construction) with the center of the hole, thus saving the quota of 50 of the asola and having the asola always centered with any portion of the hole compared to the base.
you have to learn how to exploit the relationships and constraints you can impose to simplify sketches, ensure alignments, symmetries and reduce the number of odds: if you need 5 holes diam 10 in the same sketch quoti one, select them all and impose the bond of equality.
4) I have seen that the sketch of the base still has those two quotas of 42, that of 10 regarding the origin and the horizontal bond between origin and a vertex. erases bond and quotas and remake it as I wrote you in the other post. If you don't do it for my next answer, I go to the net to look for the smile that spits in an eye:
Hi.
marcof
Guest
I understand that, you heartless bastards, you don't even get me out of the way you rightly remembered in the other post:smile: but I ask the question:
I use swx 2009 sp4.1, it also happens to you that in its files (all those that posted until now) when you come in edit of the 2 and 3 Shizzo disappear the previous features in the tree and see only the sketch that you change?
Hi.
p.s in these transgression times you say I have to re-enroll me as "mirkaf" to be considered?? :biggrin: