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my working situation.

a few days before the deadline and the leaders have not told me anything yet... I think they don't want to keep me or otherwise I'll probably refuse their little professionalism... They knew I came from 500km that I have a house for rent with the contract that runs out at the same time with the work... have never been clear about my current and future role... promises of training and courses not maintained... at this point I go back to the mei for a while since it was more an investment what I made a source of gain
 
Don't be pessimistic. Maybe for them, I'm telling you.
if the company is large and structured, keep in mind that your bosses are among the last to know about your renewal.
 
I'm sorry, guys, so the contract has changed me pretty much to the same conditions as the previous one... I have now had two proposals for work as a designer: one in a very small company (20 max employees) that makes sheets and another for a consultancy company that will lead me to work at a very large company in the aeronautics industry (my field of studies)... the salary and the contract are practically the same I would like to know your opinions if it is better to work in a consulting company or better in a small company without intermediaries?
 
dommypenny said:
I'm sorry, guys, so the contract has changed me pretty much to the same conditions as the previous one... I have now had two proposals for work as a designer: one in a very small company (20 max employees) that makes sheets and another for a consultancy company that will lead me to work at a very large company in the aeronautics industry (my field of studies)... the salary and the contract are practically the same I would like to know your opinions if it is better to work in a consulting company or better in a small company without intermediaries?
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hello, as far as consulting companies are concerned https://www.cad3d.it/forum1/threads/49993-offerte-di-lavoro-da-società-di-engineering-outsourcing and have a half idea.
work in a company that employs these figures and they are not given particular tasks but tasks of almost manpower, although they are mechanical or aerospace engineers. this for two reasons, one is that they have no specific training and a company invests in their own resources, two contract is playful indefinitely.
There is also to say that I had a colleague, good engineer, indefinite time, position of responsibility and so on, who went to work for a consulting company that sent him to work in a company to which he loved and is well, with the hope that they hire him in the company.
I hope I have confused you even more;-)
c.
 
ceschi1959 said:
hello, as far as consulting companies are concerned https://www.cad3d.it/forum1/threads/49993-offerte-di-lavoro-da-società-di-engineering-outsourcing and have a half idea.
work in a company that employs these figures and they are not given particular tasks but tasks of almost manpower, although they are mechanical or aerospace engineers. this for two reasons, one is that they have no specific training and a company invests in their own resources, two contract is playful indefinitely.
There is also to say that I had a colleague, good engineer, indefinite time, position of responsibility and so on, who went to work for a consulting company that sent him to work in a company to which he loved and is well, with the hope that they hire him in the company.
I hope I have confused you even more;-)
c.
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You're confirming what I thought... in the small company I would go to make the mechanical designer of plates and metal boxes in the other I would deal with planes and helicopters. with all respect for the first company seems to me a more interesting peline the second as product... Only in the end is that maybe for counseling, as you say, I would be just a more technical labor. I have recently turned 27 years, already worked for an exact year immediately after graduation, I would like to acquire as many knowledge and experiences as possible
 
cacciatorino said:
With the hunger of technicians that there is now I think that this is really the last problem of a mechanical ing....:finger: if you don't have family/children/mutual look around quietly, I don't think you'll have any trouble finding a more exciting job.
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I'm sorry if I intervene, so do you think that all these "plants" that feel around because of the crisis are exaggerated for our technical profession? (mechanical here too).

Where's the truth?
 
320i S said:
talk about "crisis" personally I think it out of place in 2017.
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ninfh said:
"crisis" ended 6-7-8 years ago (depending on sectors)....
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Geez, I'm abroad escaped because of the crisis and everyone scared me to go back to the house of the "crisis" they can't eat, they don't come to the end of the month etc.

ok, I am of the south but they have always told me that also Tuscany emilia-Roman lombardia and Veneto not if they pass it well for nothing..... :

They told me so many lies in practice if I didn't read that post:)

p.s. before you ask who makes you do it to return I immediately say that my contract is undetermined but making a comparison with the cost of life (I used some website for this considering rents, eating, bills, transport etc.) is as if I at the moment take 1280 euros on twelve monthly, so on 13, 14 you make the account...
I have 4 years of experience
 
To say that the crisis is over, I think it's a big shit. in Italy the crisis is at the highest historical, public debt, unemployment, investments etc. everything worsens.
then that in some underdeveloped country the big multinationals go to invest is another speech.
in the design then there is demand of capable and experienced people not of apprentices looking for experience.
 
there are so many people convinced that we are still in crisis, the reality is that the crisis that has been (and you do not deny it), has led to a different way of working and approaching things.
There has certainly been a heavy containment of investments, but not for the crisis, as for the fear that investors have had in these years, now things are moving.
if you take the individual sectors, who had the courage and the kindness to change, came out very soon from the crisis, who did not do it and persevered with the convictions before the crisis, has had more and more difficulty.
 
Lord Kelvin said:
Geez, I'm abroad escaped because of the crisis and everyone scared me to go back to the house of the "crisis" they can't eat, they don't come to the end of the month etc.

ok, I am of the south but they have always told me that also Tuscany emilia-Roman lombardia and Veneto not if they pass it well for nothing..... :

They told me so many lies in practice if I didn't read that post:)

p.s. before you ask who makes you do it to return I immediately say that my contract is undetermined but making a comparison with the cost of life (I used some website for this considering rents, eating, bills, transport etc.) is as if I at the moment take 1280 euros on twelve monthly, so on 13, 14 you make the account...
I have 4 years of experience
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Where are you working?
 
320i S said:
there are so many people convinced that we are still in crisis, the reality is that the crisis that has been (and you do not deny it), has led to a different way of working and approaching things.
There has certainly been a heavy containment of investments, but not for the crisis, as for the fear that investors have had in these years, now things are moving.
if you take the individual sectors, who had the courage and the kindness to change, came out very soon from the crisis, who did not do it and persevered with the convictions before the crisis, has had more and more difficulty.
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how do you think things have changed for us that we offer to companies?
 
Of course 4 years are few but they are already something, then it depends where it was made and who was the "master" and what it wanted to convey. I was put in front of a mold project (injection) and asked to increase its efficiency by 15 % or alternatively to reduce the equipment costs by 10%.
while not being a designer with the cons c they preferred to grab my 25 years of experience that the ability to design a new graduate. If you know how to design the design is the least important part, I saw kids 16/17 years old working with cad that ing, move right.. .
 
I tell you about my area: you can no longer "work low", producing drawings and taking all possible jobs, counts so much efficiency in every single compartment; means for us to work taking into consideration everything that will come after and leave nothing to chance or to "we will see it after", so many skills in many sectors and be organized to the best.
 
Meteor02 said:
Of course 4 years are few but they are already something, then it depends where it was made and who was the "master" and what it wanted to convey. I was put in front of a mold project (injection) and asked to increase its efficiency by 15 % or alternatively to reduce the equipment costs by 10%.
while not being a designer with the cons c they preferred to grab my 25 years of experience that the ability to design a new graduate. If you know how to design the design is the least important part, I saw kids 16/17 years old working with cad that ing, move right.. .
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It's just a tool for me.

I designed some support for a vehicle prototype (so design not optimized, because 1-off) and then a relative humidity control box. I don't know. You say I have no hopes, right? Obviously then I had roles also on the management of orders.
But here's design, everything is less than a master.

Perhaps the international experience counts who knows:)
 

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