my working situation.

[PierArg]

I see it as 320i s.

you can never return to pre-crisis times simply because before you lived too much above expectations and the system was "dropped".
all you saw before (car, holidays, dinners outside, etc.) was the result of debts.
not to mention the real estate market: people who with 5 thousand euros on the account bought houses from 350 thousand euros.
and on this I speak with knowledge of cause.

the real economic situation is what we are living today. If you don't have the money, you don't. point.

 

[beppino]

the real economic situation is what we are living today. If you don't have the money, you don't. point.

Something still needs to change, I think.
For example, technology is still "disrogating" the market, with the frenetic upgrade being produced with an update comma from year to year.
from phones, tablets, TVs, photos/video cameras, there are still too many people who make debts to buy the latest model.
but this will change too.

 

[Meteor02]

I did not agree, from 1997 to 2002 I completed an average of 70 new moulds per year that little centred on individual cruises or small pockets, at that time my problem was to satisfy customers who invested frantically in new projects. Now the problem is to find a customer who wants to develop 1 new project, and when the first goal is to break down costs certainly not to increase productivity. this is the crisis or globalization and I doubt it will never pass

 

[Meteor02]

Of course you have hopes the experience you do on the field and "no one is born learned" I can advise you to focus on a specific sector in order not to make experiences that do not grow you then do not look too much to the money sometimes take a job even if little paid by the chance to confront others and "to steal knowledge"

 

[PierArg]

Indeed, before they turned more money...soldi that were the result of debts.
now that the banks to give you even only 5000€ look at us 10 times the pacchia is over.
Therefore, starting from the individual person, you can extend this speech in a macroscopic way.

 

[Meteor02]

money is the same, it is not that fiat no longer produces accessories for its distribution line, simply makes them produce in Bulgarian korea cina etc. for example until 2003 I worked with nissan, producing all the accessories that would be used by nissan europa, now they are produced outside the community bringing our money to extra-European suppliers with much lower costs. the result is that the money you spend goes to "close" leaving our empty pockets, but the companies continue to produce and design, maybe in India but nn stop. . .

 

[320i S]

I can tell you that in my area the automotive premium houses make us produce a lot: bmw, vw, audi, porsche, mercedes etc.

 

[Meteor02]

I would like to understand what they make?, since the headlights of these German cars are made in Romanesa (first to trofarello to), the idem interiors (once they were made to vezzano re) the suspensions bmw cars leveling in cina, remains some historical supplier in Europe but are really few, bumpers and plastics of large audi size always cina. I myself found myself in the tight with works and made them do to an Indian boy at a ridiculous price it is logical that the work from us to 60 /70 euro/h is in crisis, or better stabilized to the lower

 

[320i S]

Lighting of a towel outlines many sub-components of the rear lights, then there is value that produces front headlights for many brands and some components make them do in the area, but without counting all the plastics of interior and exterior those in compounds with rubber, there are an infinity of single components that then go to be part of pre-assembled larger or directly in final assembly.
there are even components of mclaren and royce rolls that are made in Italy.

experience of other companies for which I worked with technical offices also in wool and india, for many things they returned to Europe with legs raised, especially when a high final quality of the project was required, and I do not speak for voices, but situations lived in the first person.

 

[Meteor02]

"for many things they have returned to Europe with legs raised, especially when a high final quality of the project was required." it is for all that is production that are left in those countries with very low costs, also ferrari produces in Italy, I made for them the beauty of 435 air conveyors in 3 years, unfortunately it is a good thing only to be able to say: work for ferrari, certainly not to fill the 8 working hours for about 300 days per year. same thing for duchies, of course they do much of the components of the panigale in Italy but the pieces of the most-drawn motorcycles do them in india. Certainly it is not so for everyone and in all sectors but in 90% of cases production is moved abroad, and I say it with knowledge of cause for 3 years that travel between Romanesque and Bulgarian Italy to arrange production situations for big embarrassing companies.

 

[320i S]

Well, it is just steps from production of millions of components to a few hundred, there are the means and the ability of our companies, it is precisely in being able to do these productions to my side, which in many respects, require a high level know-how.

 

[Lord Kelvin]

Of course you have hopes the experience you do on the field and "no one is born learned" I can advise you to focus on a specific sector in order not to make experiences that do not grow you then do not look too much to the money sometimes take a job even if little paid by the chance to confront others and "to steal knowledge"

Thanks for the advice.

I meant if with 4 years of foreign experience (2 in catia/sw design) do I hope to return to Italy like veneto emilia? What do others think?

I agree that the crisis has changed the way to spend before you saw the unemployed cradle at mom and dad's house and go on record or spend 60 euros per barrel to take out the woman...if you're unemployed you don't leave not trailers and stay at home or you find an imho job.

Now the knots came to the comb.

and cmq every time I go back to Abruzzo I see full restaurants.. I disco full..cocktail to 10/12 euros in cask ordered as mineral water and people dressed pour me prada and away.
even my wife asked me "but if you have the crisis because the places of dick at the restaurant etc are full? "

 

[320i S]

and cmq every time I go back to Abruzzo I see full restaurants.. I disco full..cocktail to 10/12 euros in cask ordered as mineral water and people dressed pour me prada and away.
even my wife asked me "but if you have the crisis because the places of dick at the restaurant etc are full? "

I repeat that the crisis has ended from a piece, this is the current world and for many the important is still appearing as a result and if they have some unforeseen expenses, in many they resort to the fast loan (and the banks in this have "fame", because to have not lent anything in these years, they have also put us back in "soldo che non gira", just see that interest they ask for loans within 3-4000€).

 

[PierArg]

money is the same, it is not that fiat no longer produces accessories for its distribution line, simply makes them produce in Bulgarian korea cina etc. for example until 2003 I worked with nissan, producing all the accessories that would be used by nissan europa, now they are produced outside the community bringing our money to extra-European suppliers with much lower costs. the result is that the money you spend goes to "close" leaving our empty pockets, but the companies continue to produce and design, maybe in India but nn stop. . .

But this speech is more about globalization.
with the crisis, what you wrote, has nothing to do with it...and by crisis I mean that of 2008 that came from subprimes and that brought to the close on credit to enterprises and families.

 

[Meteor02]

the economic crisis is the direct consequence of the industrial crisis, generated by uncontrolled globalization. the tightening on credit is direct from the increase in unemployment generated by the industrial crisis. It is a dog that bites the certain tail is that until they stop the industrial crisis it will be increasingly difficult for those who are "emigrate" to return to his land and maintain a dignified standard of life. It sucks to see how many ultra graduate resumes arrive via email through interinal societies.

 

[Lord Kelvin]

Of course it is that until they stop the industrial crisis will be more and more difficult for those who are "emigrate" to return to his land and maintain a dignified standard of life. It sucks to see how many ultra graduate resumes arrive via email through interinal societies.

So you think I wouldn't find anything in my country especially in the north? I'm not getting rich here.

 

[TAURUS77]

the economic crisis is the direct consequence of the industrial crisis, generated by uncontrolled globalization. the tightening on credit is direct from the increase in unemployment generated by the industrial crisis. It is a dog that bites the certain tail is that until they stop the industrial crisis it will be increasingly difficult for those who are "emigrate" to return to his land and maintain a dignified standard of life. It sucks to see how many ultra graduate resumes arrive via email through interinal societies.

.....before someone tells me that I am exaggerated I can with knowledge of cause state that many interinal societies are "legalized mafia".

 

[Meteor02]

finding work in emilia is not impossible, certainly it takes time and often you have to pass for interinal societies, the experience you have is definitely help but prepared to enter with salary between the base and the bass, then if you work well it is not impossible to get to have an acceptable salary. I can only tell you that a designer just came in from my client confided to take 900 euros + some extras out envelope if they send him around, certainly not a salary suitable for those who have or you want to make a family... until 2003 here if one wanted to change even 3/4 jobs a year now abandoning the job that you are looking for another is a madness, I can only advise you to look for the new before leaving the present.

 

[Meteor02]

I would like to thank the rapporteur for his work. . and I swear here from me it is full (but in the red film...) I want to publish the resumes that I get graduates "sold" from cooperatives as labor

 

[TAURUS77]

I would like to thank the rapporteur for his work. . and I swear here from me it is full (but in the red film...) I want to publish the resumes that I get graduates "sold" from cooperatives as labor

....I believe you... it's really gross.